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[ramacca]

Seems like

Interesting developments in Israel this morning. Another blow to US interests there.

Seems like Hama's has gone into occupied Palestine, in a big way, to reclaim their land taken from them by the colonists. It will not have gone unnoticed by Hama's that the US Empire is facing defeat in Ukraine.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Seems like

Seems like Hama's has gone into occupied Palestine, in a big way, to reclaim their land taken from them by the colonists. It will not have gone unnoticed by Hama's that the US Empire is facing defeat in Ukraine.

I mean I am pro-palestine in a big way but this is utter, utter, utter, utter guff

 

[Charro]

There’s a reason those two idiots were banned from here previously.

I’d like to think whilst they’re warning posters in here they have an eye on them two for what is persistent trolling on an extremely sensitive subject.

The site is one big troll farm, I get that, but there’s certain threads where it needs to be cut out.

 

[davek]

Interesting developments in Israel this morning. Another blow to US interests there.

Surely the US and the UK will support this Intifada - as they support the other great resistance movement of the day in Ukraine...they would't back one and not the other would they...that'd make them hypocrites.

 

[Kurt.]

The reality is, if the US suddenly decided it wanted to end the war they could wipe out putins tin pot army within days …. (Yes I do understand putin is a mad freak with nukes)

 

[Yarrgh]

Key Takeaways:

• Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut and advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast on October 6.
• Russian forces appear to have recently conducted a regimental rotation in the Orikhiv area, demonstrating an ability to sustain their defenses in this critical sector of the frontline.
• Russian forces reportedly resumed an offensive effort near Kupyansk on October 6, but the majority of the Russian forces reportedly deployed to this sector of the front likely remain combat ineffective.
• Russian forces may be expanding military training infrastructure in occupied eastern Ukraine as part of ongoing efforts to increase the training and mobilization capacity of the Russian military.
• The Kremlin’s continued attempts to deflect blame for the crash of Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plane and disgrace Prigozhin are generating continued praise for Prigozhin and efforts to defend his legacy among select information space communities.
• Former Russian military commanders who participated in the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 reportedly remain in peripheral positions of some influence within the Russian military or defense-industrial base.
• Russian forces conducted a Shahed-131/136 drone strike targeting port, grain, and border infrastructure in southern Ukraine on the night of October 5-6.
• Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Lyman line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas.
• Ukrainian forces conducted offensive operations near Bakhmut and advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
• Russia has reportedly recruited up to several hundred Serbian nationals to fight in Ukraine

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, October 6, 2023

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut and advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast on October 6. Ukrainian military sources noted that Ukrainian forces continued successful offensive actions south of Bakhmut near Andriivka (8km southeast of Bakhmut). Geolocated footage...

www.understandingwar.org

There's more actual points showing Russian offensives and military improvements in this than all of Kev's nonsense. We could actually debate these or at least form an opinion on what is happening.

 

[Kev The Rat]

There's more actual points showing Russian offensives and military improvements in this than all of Kev's nonsense. We could actually debate these or at least form an opinion on what is happening.

their latest map shows absolutely happening in terms of changing areas of control, so actually there is very little to debate militarily

 

[Kev The Rat]

Surely the US and the UK will support this Intifada - as they support the other great resistance moment of the day in Ukraine...they would't back one and not the other would they...that'd make them hypocrites.

Surely.....

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

The western narrative, peddled by propagandists, is the Ukraine's are winning on the battlefield because the Russian military is crap and can't fight. If someone posts something that doesn't back up that narrative then the name calling comes out. Some will want posters banned, they'll be called Russian bots, some will throw their toys out of the pram and will advocate not sending subscriptions, some will say poster(s) only have a pro Russian bias while at the same time only posting, or liking, a pro Ukraine bias.
What we are witnessing in Ukraine is the defeat of the US Empire, and it's vassals like the UK, Germany and the EU. It's at this poin that the finger pointing has begun in earnest due to the Ukraine counter offensive petering out to a standstill. The supposed 'Russia wants a pause' is what the US Empire wants so as to produce more weapons because they've got nothing less to send now. A rerun of advocating the Minsk Agreement so as to build up the Ukraine military. There are those that n Ukraine who are wanting to build up the Ukraine defensive lines, because the counter offensive has ground to a halt and they fear a major Russian counter attack that will dessimate further the Ukraine military capability.
The former chief of Ukraine intelligence Arestovich, said the Russians are winning on the ground and the Ukraine's should offer peace talks. No doubt he'll be on Anton Gerashchenko's Myrotvorets 'enemies of Ukraine' fascist hit list along with Kissinger and 300 plus children. Many on the list at are no longer alive.
A defeat for the US Empire will/is opening the gates for further advances for the worldwide anti imperialist anti colonial struggles as it did after the Vietnam debacle and defeat. The best Ukraine can hope is to call for peace talks in an attempt to have some semblance of a state. The alternative as it is now, is the US Empire and it's vassals states are prepared to urge Zelensky to carry on literally to the last Ukrainian. Even surpassing the already hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Even if they stop sending weapons and money.

The sad ramblings of a disturbed, marginalised individual. Living alone in your mars’ box room watching and reading Russian propaganda, sucking it all up in the pathetic hope that it will give you credence and payback against the world and society you find yourself living in.

If truth be told you probably had the same opportunities as the rest of us, but for whatever reason you failed to act upon them and now you have nothing - you’re simply a hollow impotent shell full of hate, despair anger and rage.

Anyone who condones and supports Russian atrocities in Ukraine deserves to be called out for what they are - scum. In this case that’s you lad and that bellend Kev - so do us all a favour and jog on over to your fave russki propaganda porn site and knock a few out. Better still -take the plunge, leave the west behind and f-off over to Russia and see how their society deals with weirdos and misfits like you.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Surely the US and the UK will support this Intifada - as they support the other great resistance moment of the day in Ukraine...they would't back one and not the other would they...that'd make them hypocrites.

Yeh, cos theyre similar.....

 

[davek]

What absolute twaddle.

It's true mate...well maybe not the 'only thing in there lives' claim, but...

I've been posting on GOT since 2008 and I've seen nothing like the abuse this lad gets. It's purely down to a lack of acceptance that there can be something to be had from a balanced approach.

Rationality has flown out of the window in this thread like I;ve never seen before in any other thread. It's less about Ukraine and more about a beat down on kev.

I've got about 5 on ignore myself because they're a 'kin outrage. A salivating mob who can't think straight.

And Im sorry to say that btw.

 

[davek]

Yeh, cos theyre similar.....

One side illegally grabs land of the other...what am I missing here...

 

[Kev The Rat]

It's true mate...well maybe not the 'only thing in there lives' claim, but...

I've been posting on GOT since 2008 and I've seen nothing like the abuse this lad gets. It's purely down to a lack of acceptance that there can be something to be had from a balanced approach.

Rationality has flown out of the window in this thread like I;ve never seen before in any other thread. It's less about Ukraine and more about a beat down on kev.

I've got about 5 on ignore myself because they're a 'kin outrage. A salivating mob who can't think straight.

And Im sorry to say that btw.

A weaker person than me would have cracked ages ago tbf. there was a guy called @bluestevon who posted here and was hounded off because his wife happened to be Russian.

I laugh at these people tbh, its so transparent.

They are the ones foaming at the mouth, hurling abuse. not me.

 

[davek]

There’s a reason those two idiots were banned from here previously.

I’d like to think whilst they’re warning posters in here they have an eye on them two for what is persistent trolling on an extremely sensitive subject.

The site is one big troll farm, I get that, but there’s certain threads where it needs to be cut out.

Maybe try and contribute to this debate instead of being a cry arse demanding people get banned like a scab.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

It's true mate...well maybe not the 'only thing in there lives' claim, but...

I've been posting on GOT since 2008 and I've seen nothing like the abuse this lad gets. It's purely down to a lack of acceptance that there can be something to be had from a balanced approach.

Rationality has flown out of the window in this thread like I;ve never seen before in any other thread. It's less about Ukraine and more about a beat down on kev.

I've got about 5 on ignore myself because they're a 'kin outrage. A salivating mob who can't think straight.

And Im sorry to say that btw.

He doesn't provide balance, he provides pro-Putin propaganda and is poison on here.

Everyone can see it.