Current Affairs Ukraine

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PhilM said:
On one side, I can get Danny's / The MODs' view that they wish to not overly moderate the CA as much, and ultimately there will be contrasting views.

We don't have to agree with views. But for me, there has to be a line where genuine discussion of contrasting views crosses into clear and evident wummery.

Or, the view becomes so distorted or away from the norm that it could be perceived as extreme. In society, there are checks and balances to stop this happening.

I've said it before: I can tolerate it in most threads, but not in here.
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Agred, this is not difference of opinion, it is pure bulship. He is not even bothering to tell truths, just spouts lies for reaction. Not healthy for anyone.
 
PhilM said:
On one side, I can get Danny's / The MODs' view that they wish to not overly moderate the CA as much, and ultimately there will be contrasting views.

We don't have to agree with views. But for me, there has to be a line where genuine discussion of contrasting views crosses into clear and evident wummery.

Or, the view becomes so distorted or away from the norm that it could be perceived as extreme. In society, there are checks and balances to stop this happening.

I've said it before: I can tolerate it in most threads, but not in here.
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Think the most effective protest would be for you to stop posting or viewing in this thread and potentially disable/delete your account altogether
 
PhilM said:
On one side, I can get Danny's / The MODs' view that they wish to not overly moderate the CA as much, and ultimately there will be contrasting views.

We don't have to agree with views. But for me, there has to be a line where genuine discussion of contrasting views crosses into clear and evident wummery.

Or, the view becomes so distorted or away from the norm that it could be perceived as extreme. In society, there are checks and balances to stop this happening.

I've said it before: I can tolerate it in most threads, but not in here.
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The thing with this particular @Kev The Rat account and poster is that it is so clearly anti Everton that it can only be a wum account or a kopite. The constant glee at the thought of Everton getting relegated is one thing but as you say this situation is crossing a line that is so poor in taste and immoral that it truly is repulsive.

Its also been sad to see @davek destroy what was a fun account.

Back to Ukraine, let's hope Vlad chokes on his birthday cake, the murderous fiend.
 
The western narrative, peddled by propagandists, is the Ukraine's are winning on the battlefield because the Russian military is crap and can't fight. If someone posts something that doesn't back up that narrative then the name calling comes out. Some will want posters banned, they'll be called Russian bots, some will throw their toys out of the pram and will advocate not sending subscriptions, some will say poster(s) only have a pro Russian bias while at the same time only posting, or liking, a pro Ukraine bias.
What we are witnessing in Ukraine is the defeat of the US Empire, and it's vassals like the UK, Germany and the EU. It's at this poin that the finger pointing has begun in earnest due to the Ukraine counter offensive petering out to a standstill. The supposed 'Russia wants a pause' is what the US Empire wants so as to produce more weapons because they've got nothing less to send now. A rerun of advocating the Minsk Agreement so as to build up the Ukraine military. There are those that n Ukraine who are wanting to build up the Ukraine defensive lines, because the counter offensive has ground to a halt and they fear a major Russian counter attack that will dessimate further the Ukraine military capability.
The former chief of Ukraine intelligence Arestovich, said the Russians are winning on the ground and the Ukraine's should offer peace talks. No doubt he'll be on Anton Gerashchenko's Myrotvorets 'enemies of Ukraine' fascist hit list along with Kissinger and 300 plus children. Many on the list at are no longer alive.
A defeat for the US Empire will/is opening the gates for further advances for the worldwide anti imperialist anti colonial struggles as it did after the Vietnam debacle and defeat. The best Ukraine can hope is to call for peace talks in an attempt to have some semblance of a state. The alternative as it is now, is the US Empire and it's vassals states are prepared to urge Zelensky to carry on literally to the last Ukrainian. Even surpassing the already hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Even if they stop sending weapons and money.
 
ramacca said:
The western narrative, peddled by propagandists, is the Ukraine's are winning on the battlefield because the Russian military is crap and can't fight. If someone posts something that doesn't back up that narrative then the name calling comes out. Some will want posters banned, they'll be called Russian bots, some will throw their toys out of the pram and will advocate not sending subscriptions, some will say poster(s) only have a pro Russian bias while at the same time only posting, or liking, a pro Ukraine bias.
What we are witnessing in Ukraine is the defeat of the US Empire, and it's vassals like the UK, Germany and the EU. It's at this poin that the finger pointing has begun in earnest due to the Ukraine counter offensive petering out to a standstill. The supposed 'Russia wants a pause' is what the US Empire wants so as to produce more weapons because they've got nothing less to send now. A rerun of advocating the Minsk Agreement so as to build up the Ukraine military. There are those that n Ukraine who are wanting to build up the Ukraine defensive lines, because the counter offensive has ground to a halt and they fear a major Russian counter attack that will dessimate further the Ukraine military capability.
The former chief of Ukraine intelligence Arestovich, said the Russians are winning on the ground and the Ukraine's should offer peace talks. No doubt he'll be on Anton Gerashchenko's Myrotvorets 'enemies of Ukraine' fascist hit list along with Kissinger and 300 plus children. Many on the list at are no longer alive.
A defeat for the US Empire will/is opening the gates for further advances for the worldwide anti imperialist anti colonial struggles as it did after the Vietnam debacle and defeat. The best Ukraine can hope is to call for peace talks in an attempt to have some semblance of a state. The alternative as it is now, is the US Empire and it's vassals states are prepared to urge Zelensky to carry on literally to the last Ukrainian. Even surpassing the already hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Even if they stop sending weapons and money.
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A sadly accurate picture of the state of play.

What Russia must avoid is a new Minsk as we know the west is agreement-incapable
 
ramacca said:
The western narrative, peddled by propagandists, is the Ukraine's are winning on the battlefield because the Russian military is crap and can't fight. If someone posts something that doesn't back up that narrative then the name calling comes out. Some will want posters banned, they'll be called Russian bots, some will throw their toys out of the pram and will advocate not sending subscriptions, some will say poster(s) only have a pro Russian bias while at the same time only posting, or liking, a pro Ukraine bias.
What we are witnessing in Ukraine is the defeat of the US Empire, and it's vassals like the UK, Germany and the EU. It's at this poin that the finger pointing has begun in earnest due to the Ukraine counter offensive petering out to a standstill. The supposed 'Russia wants a pause' is what the US Empire wants so as to produce more weapons because they've got nothing less to send now. A rerun of advocating the Minsk Agreement so as to build up the Ukraine military. There are those that n Ukraine who are wanting to build up the Ukraine defensive lines, because the counter offensive has ground to a halt and they fear a major Russian counter attack that will dessimate further the Ukraine military capability.
The former chief of Ukraine intelligence Arestovich, said the Russians are winning on the ground and the Ukraine's should offer peace talks. No doubt he'll be on Anton Gerashchenko's Myrotvorets 'enemies of Ukraine' fascist hit list along with Kissinger and 300 plus children. Many on the list at are no longer alive.
A defeat for the US Empire will/is opening the gates for further advances for the worldwide anti imperialist anti colonial struggles as it did after the Vietnam debacle and defeat. The best Ukraine can hope is to call for peace talks in an attempt to have some semblance of a state. The alternative as it is now, is the US Empire and it's vassals states are prepared to urge Zelensky to carry on literally to the last Ukrainian. Even surpassing the already hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Even if they stop sending weapons and money.
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Your posts are always a wall of text that people read the first couple of lines, confirm it's still bollocks and then go about their day.
 
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