Current Affairs Ukraine

[Piijt]

It's also part of a long ongoing attempt to move away from trading oil and gas in dollars which coincidentally started just about the time relations with Russia started going south.

That was the death knell for Gadaffi

 

[Yarrgh]

That was the death knell for Gadaffi

As soon as the banisters lose their slice, it gets serious.

 

[peteblue]

Putin must be loving this. He’s got all the leaders of the west scurrying around and multitudes of politicians rushing to Moscow to talk to him and Lavrov.….

 

[tsubaki]

Putin must be loving this. He’s got all the leaders of the west scurrying around and multitudes of politicians rushing to Moscow to talk to him and Lavrov.….

I am sure he is Pete, but when dictators delight in having their ego stroked rather than carrying out sensible actions then that’s usually when the start to lose power.

Putin is the one in the bind here; he’s created the Ukrainian situation and marched his men up to the top of the hill. Now he’s got to try and get back down with dignity, and without creating an even worse problem for himself.

 

[Kurt.]

Putin must be loving this. He’s got all the leaders of the west scurrying around and multitudes of politicians rushing to Moscow to talk to him and Lavrov.….

…and we have Liz truss ?‍

 

[peteblue]

I am sure he is Pete, but when dictators delight in having their ego stroked rather than carrying out sensible actions then that’s usually when the start to lose power.

Putin is the one in the bind here; he’s created the Ukrainian situation and marched his men up to the top of the hill. Now he’s got to try and get back down with dignity, and without creating an even worse problem for himself.

Indeed….

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Good god it gets worse.

During her visit to Moscow - Lavrov asked Liz Truss, "Do you recognize Russia's sovereignty over Rostov and Voronezh oblasts?" Truss said the UK would "never" do so.

The British amabassador then had to remind her that both Rostov and Voronezh are in fact located in Russia and not Ukraine!

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5207486?tg

 

[roydo]

Good god it gets worse.

During her visit to Moscow - Lavrov asked Liz Truss, "Do you recognize Russia's sovereignty over Rostov and Voronezh oblasts?" Truss said the UK would "never" do so.

The British amabassador then had to remind her that both Rostov and Voronezh are in fact located in Russia and not Ukraine!

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5207486?tg

I have never heard of either, but by asking the question, unless it was a trick question, surely there is some international doubt about it? Otherwise, why ask it?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I have never heard of either, but by asking the question, unless it was a trick question, surely there is some international doubt about it? Otherwise, why ask it?

I think Lavrov was trying to totally discredit her, so he threw in a trick question to trip her up and good old Liz fell hook, line and sinker for it.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Good god it gets worse.

During her visit to Moscow - Lavrov asked Liz Truss, "Do you recognize Russia's sovereignty over Rostov and Voronezh oblasts?" Truss said the UK would "never" do so.

The British amabassador then had to remind her that both Rostov and Voronezh are in fact located in Russia and not Ukraine!

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5207486?tg

This is disqualifying in a foreign minister/SecState. It reveals a lack of preparation. If it's a military issue, you have to know the map. If it's an economic issue, you have to know what's at stake. Period.

It sounds like you have a female Rick Perry doing your negotiating for you. That is not good.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I think Lavrov was trying to totally discredit her, so he threw in a trick question to trip her up and good old Liz fell hook, line and sinker for it.

Indeed, I suspect a large proportion of Russian foreign affairs is designed to make the west look daft. Sadly, the Tories make it pretty easy for them.

 

[dublinbluenose]

I think Lavrov was trying to totally discredit her, so he threw in a trick question to trip her up and good old Liz fell hook, line and sinker for it.

TBF she was only there for Thatcher photo op

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Ffs

 

[sbbefc]

Ffs

Ffs, very predictable ?‍

 

[tsubaki]

Indeed, I suspect a large proportion of Russian foreign affairs is designed to make the west look daft. Sadly, the Tories make it pretty easy for them.

Loads of Western politicians do, it’s a consequence of having a political class where they only “learn” politics (and that badly).

I mean someone who knew anything about Russia would know where Rostov is; a person who knew a lot about it (and recent history) would have been able to turn the tables on Lavrov and say no, they are Russian but if you want to discuss that sort of thing then we’d welcome a talk about Kaliningrad.