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What appears to be emerging is the blame game, over the stalled counter offensive by the Ukraine military. It's a question of take your pick with each agenda, 'lack of weapons', 'poor weaponry', 'no aircraft sent', not enough tanks, air defence systems etc.', 'not following NATO military doctrine', 'following NATO military doctrine', Musk is at fault', 'corruption is hindering the military' etc.,etc. A big chunk of MSM are starting to question what is really going on. They themselves have been propagandists from the start that 'Ukraine is winning' now bigger cracks are starting to appear that questions their narrative.
Something is afoot when the New York Times has a go at Anton Gerashchenko over their propaganda mishaps, when reporting the death of the Russian Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Sokolov. They even brought up about how Gerashchenko wrongly claimed the captain of the Moskva was killed.
As a Moon of Alabama piece points out when quoting Gerashenko, 'You cannot win the propaganda war without winning the real war'. Unfortunately for Gerashchenko he's being exposed precisely because they are 'losing the real war'. And there's nothing more vicious that a reporter who's been led up the garden path and been dumped on from a great height. The blame game has begun in earnest.
Which is no surprise because 'reputations and credibility' are at stake and renewed contracts and book deals have to be negotiated and signed. Some of these journalists try and hit the giddy heights of having the 'book of the year' like Catherine Belton with her, 'Putins people: How the KGB took back Russia then took on the West'. One to get out of the library no doubt. But reading the reviews and incidents around the book (always a good idea I think) it seems to rely on too many, 'anonomous sources', Luke Harding. But the court case brought by Abramovich against the publishers for printing, 'Abramovich bought Chelsea at the 'behest of Putin' - a fancy way of saying Putin ordered him to buy Chelsea FC (which incidentally has been the basis for the hounding out of Abramovich from owning Chelsea). The publishers had to apologise because, 'it is not a statement of fact' Guardian newspaper. No doubt Catherine Belton's career has propelled upwards due to her book. Wild exaggerating propanda has been the norm from the start of Russia's military involvement in the Ukraine civil war. With it often being attributed to Putin saying it, like US General Mark Milley's, 'Kiev:will fall within 72 hours'.
The US Empire is in a quandary over Ukraine, it's losing but can't decide how to get out without seeming to lose face thereby admitting defeat. They'll probably resort to the blame game as they always do with miltary defeats Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and/or leave death, destruction and mayhem as in Libya or continue to plunder the wealth of a country like Syria, stealing oil and grain from the areas the US are still in. No wonder the US Empire itself is in political civil war turmoil. There are those that see Russia as the main 'theeat', while others are claiming 'its China that threatens our national interests' or there are this claiming both. At the moment, they'll keep sending more and more weapons to Kiev with the continued loss of life, in their attempt to damage Russia. The US will continue with its trade war moves against Germany, and as a consequence hit the EU, causing an economic downturn. No wonder there are splits in Europe over Ukraine, which will grow louder. A peace deal is the only solution to this war. Which will be a recognition the those in the Donbass and other areas want to secede away from Ukraine and join Russia. Which became the issue after the Maidan coup and the subsequent civil war move by the Kiev government, that allowed the fascists elements to take control and the derussification began with a vengeance. A negotiated settlement may be closer as Ukraine losses on the battlefield mounts. The sooner the better.
This is basically unintelligible. Have you copy and pasted this from somewhere and not formatted it correctly or have you just vomited words onto your keyboard? I had to give up quite early as it was giving me a headache but what is Moon of Alabama? Genuine question, have no idea what it is and Google hasn't helped.
 
He’s no saint I am not calling him perfect by any means.

I believe he has indeed taken money for himself and for other beneficiaries

But Russia is a much more prosperous country than when he took over - yes due to oil etc but he was the one who pivoted in that direction.

I believe he has genuine concerns in Ukraine regarding ethnic Russians and NATO interference.

He’s genuinely popular amongst the Russian people and I don’t believe that’s simply because they are too scared to go against him.

The only fears they may have are a return to the nineties and the west ‘punishing’ them again for ‘disobedience’
Comment on what Putin said about Alexander and Catherine... the fact that they expanded Russia and this is what's happening now.. you've seen the video so I'm not arsed looking for it and posting it again...
I really do believe that in that moment Putin let the truth slip, confirming my it's a land grab comments.
 
This is basically unintelligible. Have you copy and pasted this from somewhere and not formatted it correctly or have you just vomited words onto your keyboard? I had to give up quite early as it was giving me a headache but what is Moon of Alabama? Genuine question, have no idea what it is and Google hasn't helped.
Type into Google m
Moon of Alabama, it's a blog.
 
What appears to be emerging is the blame game, over the stalled counter offensive by the Ukraine military. It's a question of take your pick with each agenda, 'lack of weapons', 'poor weaponry', 'no aircraft sent', not enough tanks, air defence systems etc.', 'not following NATO military doctrine', 'following NATO military doctrine', Musk is at fault', 'corruption is hindering the military' etc.,etc. A big chunk of MSM are starting to question what is really going on. They themselves have been propagandists from the start that 'Ukraine is winning' now bigger cracks are starting to appear that questions their narrative.
Something is afoot when the New York Times has a go at Anton Gerashchenko over their propaganda mishaps, when reporting the death of the Russian Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Sokolov. They even brought up about how Gerashchenko wrongly claimed the captain of the Moskva was killed.
As a Moon of Alabama piece points out when quoting Gerashenko, 'You cannot win the propaganda war without winning the real war'. Unfortunately for Gerashchenko he's being exposed precisely because they are 'losing the real war'. And there's nothing more vicious that a reporter who's been led up the garden path and been dumped on from a great height. The blame game has begun in earnest.
Which is no surprise because 'reputations and credibility' are at stake and renewed contracts and book deals have to be negotiated and signed. Some of these journalists try and hit the giddy heights of having the 'book of the year' like Catherine Belton with her, 'Putins people: How the KGB took back Russia then took on the West'. One to get out of the library no doubt. But reading the reviews and incidents around the book (always a good idea I think) it seems to rely on too many, 'anonomous sources', Luke Harding. But the court case brought by Abramovich against the publishers for printing, 'Abramovich bought Chelsea at the 'behest of Putin' - a fancy way of saying Putin ordered him to buy Chelsea FC (which incidentally has been the basis for the hounding out of Abramovich from owning Chelsea). The publishers had to apologise because, 'it is not a statement of fact' Guardian newspaper. No doubt Catherine Belton's career has propelled upwards due to her book. Wild exaggerating propanda has been the norm from the start of Russia's military involvement in the Ukraine civil war. With it often being attributed to Putin saying it, like US General Mark Milley's, 'Kiev:will fall within 72 hours'.
The US Empire is in a quandary over Ukraine, it's losing but can't decide how to get out without seeming to lose face thereby admitting defeat. They'll probably resort to the blame game as they always do with miltary defeats Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and/or leave death, destruction and mayhem as in Libya or continue to plunder the wealth of a country like Syria, stealing oil and grain from the areas the US are still in. No wonder the US Empire itself is in political civil war turmoil. There are those that see Russia as the main 'theeat', while others are claiming 'its China that threatens our national interests' or there are this claiming both. At the moment, they'll keep sending more and more weapons to Kiev with the continued loss of life, in their attempt to damage Russia. The US will continue with its trade war moves against Germany, and as a consequence hit the EU, causing an economic downturn. No wonder there are splits in Europe over Ukraine, which will grow louder. A peace deal is the only solution to this war. Which will be a recognition the those in the Donbass and other areas want to secede away from Ukraine and join Russia. Which became the issue after the Maidan coup and the subsequent civil war move by the Kiev government, that allowed the fascists elements to take control and the derussification began with a vengeance. A negotiated settlement may be closer as Ukraine losses on the battlefield mounts. The sooner the better.
Good post. Yes I’ve done some research on her and Belton has been sued multiple times in court over her libellous comments. The British imperialists have obviously decided she’s furthered their cause enough to give her honours though.

The USA have destroyed Europe which was indeed part of the overall plan.

Unfortunately I see no peace deal in the offing, or at least one that formally recognised the new areas of Russia. Putin cannot and will not accept any form of unconditional ceasefire due to prior betrayals.
 
Good post. Yes I’ve done some research on her and Belton has been sued multiple times in court over her libellous comments. The British imperialists have obviously decided she’s furthered their cause enough to give her honours though.

The USA have destroyed Europe which was indeed part of the overall plan.

Unfortunately I see no peace deal in the offing, or at least one that formally recognised the new areas of Russia. Putin cannot and will not accept any form of unconditional ceasefire due to prior betrayals.
Found Wikipedia again have we.

In March 2021, Roman Abramovich filed a lawsuit in London against Belton and her publisher, HarperCollins, for defamation. Harbottle & Lewis represented Abramovich over the matter.[8] Belton, on the account of three former Abramovich associates, alleges that Abramovich acquired Chelsea Football Club in 2003 under Putin's instructions.[9][10] The libel suit was settled with minor amendments. Although the book carried a denial from him, future editions will explain Abramovich's motivations in more detail.[11]

Further lawsuits have been brought against HarperCollins by Mikhail Fridman, Petr Aven; and against both the author and publisher by Shalva Chigirinsky, and Rosneft.[12] HarperCollins have stated they will "robustly defend" the actions. Nick Cohen in The Observer described the litigation as "a pile-on from Russian billionaires on a scale this country has never witnessed" adding "London’s lawyers are hard at work. Carter-Ruck, CMS, Harbottle & Lewis and Taylor Wessing have a billionaire apiece in a kind of socialism of the litigious."[13]


 
Sobering stats from the New York Times earlier today that out of the 41,000 sq miles Russia has seized only 143 sq miles has been taken back by Ukrainian forces...worse still, since the fortifications have been in place Russia have gained more than twice what Ukraine have managed to take back.

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its been pure hell for the Ukros. No idea what they hope to achieve. The Russians meanwhile have held on to what they’ve got because legally that’s as far as they can go.

@Tipp blue thinks Russia wants to invade the whole of Europe but this shows their interests lie solely amongst the people of the south eastern corner
 
its been pure hell for the Ukros. No idea what they hope to achieve. The Russians meanwhile have held on to what they’ve got because legally that’s as far as they can go.

@Tipp blue thinks Russia wants to invade the whole of Europe but this shows their interests lie solely amongst the people of the south eastern corner
Nah mate, they have been battered into retreat. They thought theyd be in Kiev in days, (as did you) instead, 100,000s of thousands of dead and wounded later and they are back where they started - epic fail.

Also, if "their interests lie solely amongst the people of the south eastern corner" why were Russian air strikes and a ground invasion launched at a northern front from Belarus towards Kyiv, a northeastern front towards Kharkiv?


Your lies are pathetic you whopper
 
I’ll sleep fine thanks. I don’t spend my entire day cheerleading a leader and army that have invaded a neighbour and killed many thousands of innocent people. I’d probably struggle to sleep if that was my day to day.
Nah mate, they have been battered into retreat. They thought theyd be in Kiev in days, (as did you) instead, 100,000s of thousands of dead and wounded later and they are back where they started - epic fail.

Also, if "their interests lie solely amongst the people of the south eastern corner" why were Russian air strikes and a ground invasion launched at a northern front from Belarus towards Kyiv, a northeastern front towards Kharkiv?


Your lies are pathetic you whopper

Steady on now, he’ll put you on ignore like the rest of us.

By the end of the weekend, there’ll only comrade Daveski and Rammacaski, who aren’t on his ignore list.

All telling the same lies to each other over and over again and all having pocket tugs over the death and destruction going on due to one genocidal lunatic.
 
Steady on now, he’ll put you on ignore like the rest of us.

By the end of the weekend, there’ll only comrade Daveski and Rammacaski, who aren’t on his ignore list.

All telling the same lies to each other over and over again and all having pocket tugs over the death and destruction going on due to one genocidal lunatic.
He is too lonely to put us on ignore, it is the only interaction he gets in his "life".
 
its been pure hell for the Ukros. No idea what they hope to achieve. The Russians meanwhile have held on to what they’ve got because legally that’s as far as they can go.

@Tipp blue thinks Russia wants to invade the whole of Europe but this shows their interests lie solely amongst the people of the south eastern corner
I never said the whole of Europe... just former USSR countries that aren't under NATO protection.
If you can quote where I said the whole of Europe that would be great thanks... since you have made such a claim.
 
Because he’s a vapid helmet who gets his kicks from winding people up, I mean I love winding people up, but I wouldn’t use the rape, torture and destruction of a country as my staging point to wind people up.

@davek has seen this work to some effect and thought “I’ll have a bit of that”. Which in some way actually makes him worse than Kev. So well done to the pair of you.
Another one ignore.
 
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