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[Tipp blue]

No because they know there’s nothing that Russia will accept beyond total capitulation

As Lavrov said today they can have no trust in deals or ceasefires given the wests track record

Russias record on ceasefire is extreamly questionable.. especially in Syria.

 

[Yarrgh]

Who knows. I find it hard to believe that kind of info can be kept totally secret after 2 years.

Unless of course no one has a clue

Google Ukraine war casualties and the first hit is the Wikipedia page with various estimates from different intelligence sources. There's a good degree of variation but you can get a good idea of the numbers.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Google Ukraine war casualties and the first hit is the Wikipedia page with various estimates from different intelligence sources. There's a good degree of variation but you can get a good idea of the numbers.

It’s the vagueness and variation that concerns me

In fact , on that page you reference, you can see only two references of uke losses which are a massive variation - 100k+ according to some vague U.S. statement - to 10,000 according to the uke govt

 

[Kev The Rat]

Russias record on ceasefire is extreamly questionable.. especially in Syria.

And My point was Ukraine knows only total capitulation will suffice for Russia

Russia will not enter into a ceasefire for the sake of it

 

[Yarrgh]

It’s the vagueness and variation that concerns me

Always the same in war. No combatant will reveal the extent of losses and will also oversell their victories.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Always the same in war. No combatant will reveal the extent of losses and will also oversell their victories.

So you’ve gone from ‘you can get a good idea of the numbers’ by googling to now saying ‘you can’t trust anything’ in the space of 2 posts

Ok

 

[Rita_Poon]

So you’ve gone from ‘you can get a good idea of the numbers’ by googling to now saying ‘you can’t trust anything’ in the space of 2 posts

Ok

Look at it, calling out someone else's apparent flip flopping. Brass neck again...

 

[davek]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/us/us-soldiers-ukraine-hospital-germany.html

 

[DavidH]

DaveK's got shares in Smirnoff defo

 

[DavidH]

And My point was Ukraine knows only total capitulation will suffice for Russia

Russia will not enter into a ceasefire for the sake of it

What if they do? Will you apologise?

 

[Kev The Rat]

What if they do? Will you apologise?

I think it’s obvious they won’t

 

[Kev The Rat]

Not all over the place. An organised military will know. Think the Uke miliary seems organised.

Yeah real organized:

Ukraine is rolling out a lighter, form-fitting body armor for women after female soldiers said wearing men's clothes got in the way of their frontline fighting

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Kev The Rat]

Upward of 20,000 Ukrainian Amputees Face Trauma on a Scale Unseen Since WWI

There are not nearly enough prosthetic specialists in Ukraine to handle the growing need.

www.military.com

 

[DavidH]

I think it’s obvious they won’t

That wasn't what I asked kev

 

[DavidH]

I think it’s obvious they won’t

That wasn't what I asked kev