Current Affairs Ukraine

[peteblue]

There are two possible answers for that: Russian super-dooper-state-of-the-art technology isn't so super-dooper-state-of-the-art... or they're just murderers.

It may actually be both, if we're truly honest.

If we are truly honest it was deliberate. Schools, Churches, it’s all part of the terrorist agenda……..

 

[Kev The Rat]

A point about Ukraine joining the EU

The antics of recents days/weeks show that
Ukraine’s chances of being accepted into the EU are minuscule. The option is off the table.

Ukraine’s “farming” enterprises would wipe out every other agricultural producer in Europe, and the majority of EU member States know it.

 

[peteblue]

A point about Ukraine joining the EU

The antics of recents days/weeks show that
Ukraine’s chances of being accepted into the EU are minuscule. The option is off the table.

Ukraine’s “farming” enterprises would wipe out every other agricultural producer in Europe, and the majority of EU member States know it.

You do realise that farm produce can also be exported outside of the EU don’t you.

Ukraine will join the EU and once they push Russia out and join NATO, Putins embarrassment will be complete…it’s the beginning of the end of Russia……

 

[davek]

A point about Ukraine joining the EU

The antics of recents days/weeks show that
Ukraine’s chances of being accepted into the EU are minuscule. The option is off the table.

Ukraine’s “farming” enterprises would wipe out every other agricultural producer in Europe, and the majority of EU member States know it.

French farmers endorse this post.

 

[davek]

No need Dave, he’s a young lad still learning how to deal with both an existential war and high level diplomacy while running a country, it’s no mean feat tbh……

No one denies it's a hell of a job to do. But he has zero political instincts where international diplomacy is concerned. I think that bull in a china shop has worked like a charm up until recently...now it looks like arrogance and his neighbours in the region are well pissed off with him.

 

[Rita_Poon]

No one denies it's a hell of a job to do. But he has zero political instincts where international diplomacy is concerned. I think that bull in a china shop has worked like a charm up until recently...now it looks like arrogance and his neighbours in the region are well pissed off with him.

There's someone talking bull if you'd like to call him out... ?

 

[davek]

There's someone talking bull if you'd like to call him out... ?

Eh...

 

[Rita_Poon]

Sorry, what does that mean

apology accepted*

 

[peteblue]

No one denies it's a hell of a job to do. But he has zero political instincts where international diplomacy is concerned. I think that bull in a china shop has worked like a charm up until recently...now it looks like arrogance and his neighbours in the region are well pissed off with him.

I’m sure he will have learnt his lesson and other countries will forgive…..

 

[Tipp blue]

So Russian logic says that the west are at war with Russia but Russia are not at war with Ukraine and calling it a war gets you locked up..
Ignoring the fact that in pretty much any war the Americans started the other side was provided with weapons from Russia.. Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam..

Sergey Lavrov says US is 'directly at war' with Russia in horrifying escalation

The dramatic escalation comes a day after President Joe Biden told Volodymyr Zelensky the US will hand Ukraine devastating long-range missiles dubbed the "wonder weapon" to aid the counteroffensive.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Kurt.]

So Russian logic says that the west are at war with Russia but Russia are not at war with Ukraine and calling it a war gets you locked up..
Ignoring the fact that in pretty much any war the Americans started the other side was provided with weapons from Russia.. Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam..

Sergey Lavrov says US is 'directly at war' with Russia in horrifying escalation

The dramatic escalation comes a day after President Joe Biden told Volodymyr Zelensky the US will hand Ukraine devastating long-range missiles dubbed the "wonder weapon" to aid the counteroffensive.

www.express.co.uk

Riddle me this @Kev The Rat

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Further indication that Russia has taken an absolute beating here. As soon as the Surovkin line was breached they’ve started sqwarking like a bunch of chickens

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

A point about Ukraine joining the EU

The antics of recents days/weeks show that
Ukraine’s chances of being accepted into the EU are minuscule. The option is off the table.

Ukraine’s “farming” enterprises would wipe out every other agricultural producer in Europe, and the majority of EU member States know it.

That’s the point of the EU. Single market, fixed tariffs, level playing field.

Blah blah blah

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[PhilM]

That’s the point of the EU. Single market, fixed tariffs, level playing field.

Blah blah blah

What Kev also fails to recognise/mention regarding Ukraine joining the EU (or maybe, convenient choose to ignore) is that, like joining NATO, it isn't a quick process.

Is it going to happen soon? No. The whole being involved in a conflict part puts that to bed before the political instability is mentioned, but let's think long-term.

This conflict will only push the likelihood of their acceptance closer and closer, and after this is all finished there'll be a push to ensure alignments occurs.

Zelenskyy will not be the leader nor may the current political landscape be anywhere near the same, yet it will happen and that's the eventual goal for most.