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No idea if true but one of the rags is suggesting that the NATO head has floated the idea of Ukraine giving up some territory in order to gain NATO membership. Zelensky has told them to do one and I don’t blame him. Imagine NATO suggesting France or Germany give up a piece of land to keep Putin happy. This war has to be brought to a conclusive finish in which Russia is kicked out of Ukraine. The west is incredibly lucky that the Ukrainians are willing to fight and die both for their future but also ours. NATO nor it’s people nor any EU country should ever suggest otherwise, if they do then Putin has won again…..l
 
peteblue said:
No idea if true but one of the rags is suggesting that the NATO head has floated the idea of Ukraine giving up some territory in order to gain NATO membership. Zelensky has told them to do one and I don’t blame him. Imagine NATO suggesting France or Germany give up a piece of land to keep Putin happy. This war has to be brought to a conclusive finish in which Russia is kicked out of Ukraine. The west is incredibly lucky that the Ukrainians are willing to fight and die both for their future but also ours. NATO nor it’s people nor any EU country should ever suggest otherwise, if they do then Putin has won again…..l
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It's the only pathway to a peaceful settlement. It's also politically untenable for Zelenskyy so long as they're winning.

This is one where 'an end to bloodshed' and 'justice' are mutually exclusive, under present political conditions. Should the pendulum swing back to Russia (through something like Trump's election to the presidency), the sides can cut a deal. So long as Ukraine has every expectation of continued Western support, their leadership will believe they win a war of attrition on materiel, and probably be correct in that assessment.
 



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'Crisis Of Confidence': Ruble's Plunge Prompts Policy Clash In Russia As Costly War Drags On

The ruble has been falling as Russia’s war on Ukraine drags on with no sign that Moscow intends to pull back. While there are underlying causes such as shrinking net exports, some experts also see a ‘crisis of confidence’ in the currency and its plunge has set off a tug-of-war over economic policy.
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@Mutzo Nutzo , @Spadge Vernacular , any updates guys…….
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Lots to talk about

UKE breakthrough #1 Urozhaine (Donetsk Oblast).

Uke forces have broken through the primary line of Ru defence and are now pushing onto the next fixed line of
defence at Stormlynivka. Their goal looks to be to cut the T0803 MSR. And then move on toward Mariupol/Berdyansk and the Azov sea coast. Very hard going due to the level and intensity of the minefields that Russia has laid and also Russia is increasing its close air support in the FEBA regions.

UKE Breakthrough #2 Robotyne (Zaporizhia Oblast).

Uke forces have again broken the primary line of Ru defence and captured Robotyne. This is interesting abecause it puts them in a great position to move on and capture Tokmak. Tokmak is a major Ru logistics hub and primary link to Ru forces in Kherson oblast. If the Ukes capture Tokmak then the all Ru forces in Kherson Oblast are stuffed.

I expect Ru to defend Tokmak with everything they have as it’s vital for them to hold this town.

UKR breakthrough #3 = Kozachi Laheri (Kherson Oblast).

Uke forces have managed to launch a significant operation across the Dnipro and captured western parts of Kozachi Laheri. They’ve also launched other amphibious raids across the Dnipro (Antonivka bridge) and are moving south toward Oleshky.

These attacks are significant as they are drawing Ru troops and supplies away from Zaporizhia in order to contest these river crossings.

Other point of note:

The Ukes continue to mallet any and all crossing points to/from Crimea including the Kerch bridge. Restricting Russia's ability to reinforce and resupply its troops in crimea and the Kherson region.

The Ukes have also launched a number of sea drone attacks, severely damaging another Ru warship just outside of the Ru port of Novorossiyk and they also holed a Ru bulk fuel tanker carrying aviation fuel.
 
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