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You are excusing war-crimes...

All sense of fair play doesn't, or shouldn't, 'go out the window'. Restraint and level-headed thinking is required. A tit-for-tat response won't help. It escalates the situation. Both parties should be looking to de-escalate.

Let's not forget that Russia has been churning out murderers and rapists from their prisons to fight on the front line. And they are fighting alongside young men who are probably honest, decent individuals and don't want to be there.

Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself... if everybody followed this principle, the world would be a happier place...
take your pick.
 
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The rhetoric for a year has been to dehumanise all Russians. It's already in many heads.

There are countries we've ruined who see us in the UK the same, who'd love to have a crack at every single one of us, but people find that hard to believe...

The Russian army routinely and systematically employs rape, mutilations, torture and humiliation as accepted tactics.

No armies behaviour is completely beyond repute however the repeated examples seen with Russia shows that this is their established culture and not only has there been no attempt to change this, it is almost certainly approved from the top down as everything else is in a country ruled by a dictator.

Imagine they were marching towards your village, your family and think about preparing to see them murdered and raped in front of you.

If there's no attempt to root out the bad seeds then the whole apple should be treated as rotten. Let them surrender and be treated with respect or shoot them like dogs.
 
The Russian army routinely and systematically employs rape, mutilations, torture and humiliation as accepted tactics.

No armies behaviour is completely beyond repute
however the repeated examples seen with Russia shows that this is their established culture and not only has there been no attempt to change this, it is almost certainly approved from the top down as everything else is in a country ruled by a dictator.
That's the crux of it. Whether we would like to admit it or not, armed forces will always have bad eggs (being polite there) due to the nature of the beast.

Militaries strike a balance between training men and women to be aggressive - to fight and kill - and show restraint, hence why discipline is key.

For me, a military must be judged by their values, training, leadership and what they do not condone, including the response when the boundaries* are crossed.

Russia not only condones but promotes tactics that for many are abhorrent, hence why Russia troops get their reputation. If the top brass wanted to stamp it out...

... they could. But they don't. Look at their experiences in Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya, Afghanistan... the list goes on. This isn't a few bad eggs.

*The boundary itself is subject. What we may not condone is different in other forces.
 
You really need to grow up. The lad is making a point that seems fair and human. You seem to be making points against a poster that for whatever political reasons you disagree with. Any chance you could just comment on the title of the thread ….

Why I abstain from debating with a wokey nowadays its ultimately a futile exercise.
 
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