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Alleged leak of War status reports at the Pentagon being investigated
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Suggestion they’re fake atm….
Pentagon investigating alleged classified documents circulating on social media of US and NATO intelligence on Ukraine | CNN Politics
The Pentagon is investigating what appear to be screenshots of classified US and NATO military information about Ukraine circulating on social media, a Pentagon official told CNN.
Alleged leak of War status reports at the Pentagon being investigated
Suggestion they’re fake atm….Pentagon investigating alleged classified documents circulating on social media of US and NATO intelligence on Ukraine | CNN Politics
The Pentagon is investigating what appear to be screenshots of classified US and NATO military information about Ukraine circulating on social media, a Pentagon official told CNN.
Smoke and mirrors. Operation mincemeat springs to mind.
peteblue
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The days when we had sneaky intelligence people……
lebedev much...
Maybe, however there is a strong possibility (perhaps the most likely possibility) that the original version leaked is more likely a legitimate leak from US.
There are a few amended versions bounding around, but the original saying 35-43k Russian dead, is at the lower range that the MOD released in February.
The ratios we're hearing about missing and wounded would roughly match up with the total casualty figures. If it has been released on purpose, I wonder why...
The intelligence agencies will have had to make it believable to the GRU, so you'd suspect Ukrainian casualties will have to be fairly believable.
The only bit I would suspect may be amended are the disposition of UA brigades (position, strength etc.) ready for any future offensive, such as number of tanks.
Who really knows mate? In the lead-up to the Ukranian counter-offensive we’re going to see more and more of this stuff. Psyops team will be earning their crust for sure.
If it was a deliberate leak from the US then it would appear to have done the trick. there has to be JUST enough believable material to get the Russians interested.
For me the timing of this disclosure is significant - The US says they’re investigating and the Ukes don’t seem that concerned. The Russians however have gone banana’s, The original disclosed doc has been amended and changed beyond recognition in an attempt to implicate divisions between the Ukes and NATO.
Popcorn time methinks.
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The Kremlin continues to indicate that it is not interested in legitimate negotiations and places the onus for any negotiations on the West. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stated at a press conference in Ankara, Turkey on April 7 that Russia does not refuse to negotiate but that negotiations can only be based on Russia’s claimed “legitimate” interests and concerns.[7] Lavrov claimed the West has arrogantly ignored Russia’s interests ”with disdain.”[8] The Kremlin retains Putin’s original maximalist goals for the war in Ukraine and maintains that Russia’s ”legitimate” interests include international recognition of Russia’s illegal annexation of Ukrainian territory, regime change in Kyiv under Russia‘s calls for ”denazification,” and the ”demilitarization” of Ukraine.[9] Concerns about losing more occupied territory in Ukraine during an expected upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive may be prompting the Kremlin to intensify an ongoing information operation intended to pressure the West to offer preemptive concessions and coerce Ukraine into negotiations on conditions more favorable to Russia.[10]
It is quite intriguing, do they really produce reports like that on bits of A3? People with cameras / phones having access to locations where that info is available? More you think about it the more it doesn’t add up.
Of course you also can’t rule individual stupidity / arrogance of someone wanting to show off how important they are….
Unfortunately national defence agencies are full of…humans. Humans make mistakes, they make errors if judgement, they are also driven by hidden ideology, or even just money.
I can recall some bellend from the MOD a few years back leaving his laptop on the bus!
This is a bit different though - it looks like a briefing paper or a decent copy of one. I have no idea how it got into the public domain of if it’s even legit. But if it is In sure it would be very easy to trace this back to the source.
Personally I think it’s BS, but hey-ho we shall see.
As @Mutzo Nutzo mentioned, defence agencies and any organisation that handles sensitive information are full of humans, so a lot of people have access to it.
In the UK alone, you'd be surprised how many people have access to protected, restricted or confidential information - these are the three above unclassified.
Even if you're dipping into secret, there'll be quite a lot of people who handle such information, albeit probably in limited form as it's always on needs must.
So, the integrity of the system is based pretty much on trust, with screening/vetting and random checks being the most common way of ensuring it's maintained.
Only in specific facilities or meetings are devices regularly handed in/monitored, with only a very view not allowing any, which means it could be photographed.
It could have come from a meeting, or it could have been a document they've printed. If it's legit, they'll have found the leak already.
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You're a bit out of date with your security classifications but essentially yes.
Aye, sorry as you know if you work in the public sector most will experience OFFICIAL information on a day-to-day basis, with the changing back in 2014.
I should have said were. For a layman, however, the old markings, which so many of us were used to, make more sense - people deal with restricted data daily.
Fewer people have access to TOP SECRET, as that's marked, which makes the disclosure more embarrassing.
peteblue
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Sounds like they are desperate for negotiations …….
For those with a keen eye, you'll notice the Russians using cope cages rather than Kontakt, which shows they're worried about top-down munitions (Javelin, drones).
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