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[dublinbluenose]

What would that change, i mean this is war already, biggest and bloodiest in Europe since ww2.

Maybe economy and production will go in war mode (increased production of war materials)?

I'm not sure myself but the telegram channel is a major one.

Presumably it benefits Putin in some way.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

From the War Zone: How Ukrainian Partisans Disrupt Russian Forces - Strike Source

We talked to a member of Ukrainian Special Forces about partisan operations on the ground and their impact on the Russian military.

strikesource.com

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Andrey Medvedev: How Russian mercenary says he made an icy escape to Norway

Andrey Medvedev's escape makes him the first Wagner Group mercenary to defect to the West.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Rita_Poon]

Ukraine helicopter crash* - into a school or flats or something, children killed and injured, this is a bad one, Ukraine interior minister in helicopter - apparently confirmed dead. RIP all.

 

[EFCthechosenone]

Colour me surprised

 

[Bedfordblue]

Andrey Medvedev: How Russian mercenary says he made an icy escape to Norway

Andrey Medvedev's escape makes him the first Wagner Group mercenary to defect to the West.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not convinced (yet) this fella isn’t ‘defecting’ on the orders of his bosses.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Ukraine helicopter crash* - into a school or flats or something, children killed and injured, this is a bad one, Ukraine interior minister in helicopter - apparently confirmed dead. RIP all.

Almost certainly sabotage / shoot down imho. Surprised the ministers and under study’s weren’t travelling separately seem a major security risk even if it doesn’t turn out to be an accident.

 

[peteblue]

Not convinced (yet) this fella isn’t ‘defecting’ on the orders of his bosses.

That was my first thought….

 

[peteblue]

Colour me surprised

Merely continuing Merkel’s work in supporting Russia……

 

[peteblue]

Colour me surprised

If I were Poland I’d send them anyway and then see what Germany did…I doubt they would refuse further sales to them ……

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Sweden today agreed to ship upto 48 Archer (155mm self/propelled guns) and 50 infantry fighting vehicles plus other stuff to Ukraine.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Sweden today agreed to ship upto 48 Archer (155mm self/propelled guns) and 50 infantry fighting vehicles plus other stuff to Ukraine.

Also Denmark is shipping all of its Caesar SPG’s in its inventory (19 units). Seems like European nations have their game faces on. Come on Schulz release those Leopards

 

[peteblue]

Also Denmark is shipping all of its Caesar SPG’s in its inventory (19 units). Seems like European nations have their game faces on. Come on Schulz release those Leopards

probably wary in case they turn out to be seen as crap….

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

probably wary in case they turn out to be seen as crap….

Well if they’re anything like their pumas then they will be - however the ones that are ready to ship are with the Poles and they looked after them.

 

[stipe]

If I were Poland I’d send them anyway and then see what Germany did…I doubt they would refuse further sales to them ……

Spare parts and ammo coming from German manufactures, you can't just send military equipment in isolation.

Not to mention contract and possibility for future sales, not just military, German companies got big sway in Polish economy, basically cheap labor for German firms all over Eastern Europe.

Poland used it for PR (and for internal politics by ruling PIS party), but i utterly doubt they gonna do anything without German consent.
Germany is EU, thats exactly how are they seen here.

Also as comment above says, nobody wants to see their precious toys destroyed, just look at Saudi and Iraqi Abrams popped by Houthis and ISIL (though i read Ukrainian military love German Gepard AA tanks, apparently they top their wishlist)