Current Affairs Ukraine

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Mutzo Nutzo said:
Unless of course you obtain the legal right to claim the frozen reserve by way of an international legal ruling.

Tough one, but not impossible.
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That would give it more legitimacy from an argumentive point in the action, but it wouldn't alter the after effects of doing so mate, countries would still move their reserves out of the countries involved - it's just common sense. Would you bank at a bank that has shown if it didn't like something you do it'll take all your savings and give them to a person you've wronged - (on a fundamental level it's similar).

As Tsubaki said it's about the trust in the reserve country and if that's eroded then you keep the reserve elsewhere.

I actually think Putin would be happy if it happened btw, as I still feel maybe the main goal of all this is on a geopolitical level to try break the current order. And at a 300bn price tag it'd be a cheap way to greatly further that goal.
 
ramacca said:
87% of the world aren't sanctioning Russia. Are you saying that is evil?
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The majority of those nations who won’t sanction Russia, see Russias actions as illegal under international law.

They won’t however sanction Russia as their own internal economies are intrinsically linked to Russia, therefore understandably countries like Botswana are unlikely to sanction Russia and why should they as the UN won’t compensate them. China and India are playing theur own games.

Thus doesn’t mean that they support Russia and Russia’s illegal invasion and land grab of Ukraine. That showed yesterday at the vote in the UN.

That was the first step on the road to a legal international precedent that will provide a path to recover war reparations from Russia.
 
Mutzo Nutzo said:
The majority of those nations who won’t sanction Russia, see Russias actions as illegal under international law.

They won’t however sanction Russia as their own internal economies are intrinsically linked to Russia, therefore understandably countries like Botswana are unlikely to sanction Russia and why should they as the UN won’t compensate them. China and India are playing theur own games.

Thus doesn’t mean that they support Russia and Russia’s illegal invasion and land grab of Ukraine. That showed yesterday at the vote in the UN.

That was the first step on the road to a legal international precedent that will provide a path to recover war reparations from Russia.
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Different level of support 13% compared to yesterday's vote is obvious, self interest of voting countries, lots of the ones yesterday who condemned it have their own problem regions, or ethnic groups, condemnation in effect removes a political tool to be used against them. Didn't check the full list but would be shocked for example of Serbia didn't vote against as an example and they're very close to Russia but have territorial issues meaning it will vote always against any action like that.

To a great extent most countries vote in their own self interest or abstain or simply don't turn up
 
Martin Alvito said:
By "don't work" I mean "they don't elicit compliance." This has been demonstrated empirically, and makes sense if you think about it. You told the leader what you would do, they decided to go ahead anyway, so you impose the sanctions (which harm both you and them) to make the next threat of sanctions credible.

It's a bit like telling your kid, "If you do 'x' I will ground you," they go and do it anyway, and you ground them. If you expect them not to go and do 'x' again, you're going to have to up the ante a bit on the punishment.
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More like a bank having strict mortgage and insurance agreements. You do/don't do x, y, z and we'll reposses your house, hit you with charges etc. Part of a rules based system.
 
bluestevon said:
Key words being 'best solution I can see' mate.

Meaning realistic rather than an unrealistic ideal of what you'd like but won't ever have a chance of happening.

What's your best solution you can see for Taiwan then?
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Well, it’s the same “solution” as Ukraine. Give in to bullying and cede your lands or risk annihilation

I mean, you’ve got to fight imo. Hitler would’ve walked through Europe given your approach
 
ramacca said:
87% of the world aren't sanctioning Russia. Are you saying that is evil?
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You are missing a very obvious fact. 85% of the worlds countries are classified as 'developing nations'. They do not have the economic clout to sanction Russia and are rightfully focused upon development goals. The richer countries do however have this ability and are using this lever. The poorer nations do have the political ability to call this atrocity out as they did.
 
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