Current Affairs Ukraine

[peteblue]

Australia aren’t in NATO you flute

Spoilsport…..

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I don't think it would, but whether or not it would is neither here nor there.

If you want to talk about unjustified invasions that cause humanitarian disasters and years of crises, then 2003 is as bad as 2022. Acknowledging that is not helping "Russian apologists", its acknowledging a fact that the law (any law) can only work if it is applied to all in a fair and just manner.

I'd like to see Putin in a dock for what he has done, and I'd like to see Bush and Blair in one too.

Me too

 

[Goat]

Pol Pot was a bit rum as well hey lads?

 

[Glasshalffull]

Australia aren’t in NATO you flute

'Flute'! Cracking word! Respect.

 

[bluestevon]

Wumming?

Neit Comrade.

Errrm Nyet mate

 

[bluestevon]

NATO was not involved in any of these actions. So once again, why would NATO invade Russia ?…..

Errrm, Pete, Serbia was NATO - what are you on about

 

[devogue]

Thread disproving Russian claims about Azov executing civilians in Kupiansk. Use translate option on twitter.

 

[devogue]

Serbia says hi. As does Libya and Egypt. First one direct NATO attack on a country without any legal justification the second two NATO actions in all but name.

By China do you mean they're seeking to take over Taiwan when you say the territory of others? Kinda forgetting legally Taiwan is part of China...

Serbia was completely justified imo. They were killing tens of thousands of civilians across two different conflicts.

 

[davids]

that is one of the more idiotic pro-Russian talking points here

If anything, the US is the one responding to its European (especially its Eastern European) allies, rather than directing their behaviour. The Poles for example know what could happen in the future and have no wish to experience that again; to say they are being manipulated into fearing Russia is ludicrous given the history of Poland - Russia relations.

It's hardly pro Russian,more based on recent history in the middle East and Afghanistan. The US demononised the Muslim world and NATO fell into line. Given the last few months most European armies would fancy their chances against Russia.

 

[davids]

I thought previously that you and @bluestevon were seriously debating Ukraine, but you are not. You are just putting up any excuse for Russia. Like Russia towards Ukraine, we can all see what you are doing…..

You made a statement that was totally false. ref NATO involvement in Iraq etc.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I knew today would go brilliantly in here ?

I suppose this kind of fighting is harmless enough, pity the poor buggers in Ukraine (on both sides).

 

[peteblue]

You made a statement that was totally false. ref NATO involvement in Iraq etc.

NATO was not involved in IRAQ. You are being deliberately obtuse. If NATO was in IRAQ it would be under NATO command, and it wasn’t. So stop the whataboutary and answer my simple question, why would NATO wish to invade Russia…..

 

[tsubaki]

It's hardly pro Russian,more based on recent history in the middle East and Afghanistan. The US demononised the Muslim world and NATO fell into line. Given the last few months most European armies would fancy their chances against Russia.

It is absolutely pro-Russian, the allegation was that the EU are the puppets of the US even though the security interests of those countries (especially those who were under Russian control at some stage in the past) are clearly at risk here. I wouldn't mind but prior to 2014 there was a fairly clear reduction of arms levels in the EU and in Russia,

There are no European armies who would fancy their chances against Russia, and the "demonisation of the Muslim world" (in the West anyway) is more a consequence of 9/11 and the ISIL attacks (in the aftermath of Iraq) than anything else.

 

[peteblue]

Errrm, Pete, Serbia was NATO - what are you on about

Any chance of answering the question as to why NATO would wish to invade Russia. I’ve asked it over a dozen times, you have obfuscated and attempted diversion and whataboutery in response. I’m done with the pair of you…..

 

[McBain]

Think your multi has already replied.? Who is this David, can't see any of his posts on the forum.

The only multi in my life is the grain in my bread David!

Spend my google dollars wisely please.