Current Affairs Ukraine

[Wizard]

The Wife and I are just back from a 2week stay in Crimea, lovely weather, the constant gunfire and the rockets overhead were a bit of a nuisance, but at least the air raid sirens made for a nice morning alarm.

Thank god you had access to that lovely bridge during your stay. Would really have put a dampener on the trip otherwise

 

[Tree13]

So not telling Zelensky that Russia wasn't going to invade is bad then. I bet you'd have shouted from the rooftops that the Allies are coming to France to liberate it from the Nazi's.

English please. I am not this thread's polylinguist.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Hopefully he will work that out. Perhaps he will.

Don’t build your hopes up

 

[ramacca]

It's alleged the US knew the day and time but kept it to themselves.

Part of the US's 'damage Russia' agenda at all costs' - mostly Ukraine lives and Europe's economy.

 

[Wizard]

It's alleged the US knew the day and time but kept it to themselves.

You can’t have a go at people for peddling propaganda and then throw something like this out there with no evidence. If you have a link I’d like to read it

 

[Tree13]

Show me where I've criticised anyone? Well spadge for being a moron but he doesn't count ? It was clearly stated that at one time there were serious ceasefire negotiations going on through the Turks,they failed for reasons unspecified. So it looks like a game of nuclear chicken. Let's see who blinks first.

So you DON'T criticise the UKR government for refusing a ceasefire based on terms involving ceding the Crimea, the Donbass and all points between. Good. Neither do I. Because those areas have all been seized illegally, by military invasion.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

And where are you from?

I asked first- it’s not polite to respond to a question with another question.

Just curious as to why you quote the daily fail. No-one reads or takes any notice of what’s printed in that or any other Tory rag.

 

[Tree13]

Part of the US's 'damage Russia' agenda at all costs' - mostly Ukraine lives and Europe's economy.

If the US wanted to damage Russia at all costs, the US would launch a nuclear strike without warning.

That would damage Russia significantly and the retaliation would not matter - that's what "at all costs" means, the cost for a given action is not considered or regarded as a concern.

Are you SURE the US is running a "damage Russia" agenda at all costs?

 

[ramacca]

I asked first- it’s not polite to respond to a question with another question.

Just curious as to why you quote the daily fail. No-one reads or takes any notice of what’s printed in that or any other Tory rag.

It's because I was reading it online the other day, as it was the only one reporting it and the headline caught my attention.

 

[bluestevon]

Wonder how Prigozhin is going to feel about that.

I'm guessing that he'll be fine with it as he worked under his command in Syria before

 

[Tree13]

The Wife and I are just back from a 2week stay in Crimea, lovely weather, the constant gunfire and the rockets overhead were a bit of a nuisance, but at least the air raid sirens made for a nice morning alarm.

Ah mate, you're so lucky! I've been trying to book an all-inclusive in Sevastopol for MONTHS now, but Thomas Cook says everywhere is fully booked.

Gonna try again for Christmas.

 

[Tree13]

It's alleged the US knew the day and time but kept it to themselves.

They didn't do a very good job of keeping it to themselves. The Ukr government knew it was coming, informed their military and arranged a hot reception at Hostomel plus fifty other locations.

Plus it was all over the TV.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

It's because I was reading it online the other day, as it was the only one reporting it and the headline caught my attention.

You read the Mail???

Sorry but I need to repeat my question. Where are you from?

 

[Tree13]

Some very hardworking vatniks in here.

 

[ramacca]

Those on the Crimea can thank the engineering expertise of those that built the bridge.

"Car traffic on the Crimean bridge was resumed at 16.00 - so far in one direction, and only for cars and buses. Freight will go by ferry for the period of repair.
It became interesting, due to what it happened, because the morning pictures looked like a local apocalypse and the whole telegram feed was shitting with horror.

And the solution turned out to be simple: someone smart, even at the project stage, provided for the installation of two separate sliding lashes, which are based on a single monolithic 12-pile structure, but also separately. That is, in the event of undermining one whip, the second one remains intact and intact in terms of power elements. So an engineer unknown to us should be given a medal "For saving the logistics of Crimea" or "For the technological stability of a strategic structure." The pile monolith, probably, can only be taken by a nuclear explosion, but the more fragile lashes turned out to be independent of each other. And traffic on the second of them resumed almost immediately.
( picture to illustrate the technique - taken at the very beginning of the construction of the bridge )