Current Affairs Ukraine

[Noisy noise annoys]

Losing your temper and then editing out 'tit' for 'fool', is losing an arguement.

I cooled down and scaled it back
The fact he is a tit remains, I just didn’t want to call him one directly . I dare say he knows already

 

[Yarrgh]

After the last few pages I have subject matter fatigue.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

After the last few pages I have subject matter fatigue.

Yep, back on topic from me now.

 

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[davids]

I cooled down and scaled it back
The fact he is a tit remains, I just didn’t want to call him one directly . I dare say he knows already

I never use language online I wouldn't use to someone's face.

 

[davids]

Missile strike last night but no outrage,come on now the sofa warriors getting lazy?

 

[peteblue]

Remember lads, it’s not really about us, it’s about Ukraine and its people, and the absolute shitenhauzen Russians and their mates……

 

[davids]

Missile strike last night but no outrage,come on now the sofa warriors getting lazy?

And another yesterday,plus Brit in Russian captivity dies... gentleman,where are you?

 

[Yarrgh]

I think Ukraine is at the precipice now.

Threatening to sue international banks and Siemens over facilitating trade for Russian hydrocarbons. Threatening JP Morgan for their forecast of oil at $380 per barrel if the west tries to impose a price cap and Russia stops the supply because of it.

And the Ukrainian plane that went down in Greece was allegedly carrying weapons, including land mines, to Bangladesh. Selling on the low quality stuff?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I think Ukraine is at the precipice now.

Threatening to sue international banks and Siemens over facilitating trade for Russian hydrocarbons. Threatening JP Morgan for their forecast of oil at $380 per barrel if the west tries to impose a price cap and Russia stops the supply because of it.

And the Ukrainian plane that went down in Greece was allegedly carrying weapons, including land mines, to Bangladesh. Selling on the low quality stuff?

I don’t think we in the west are in any position to judge Ukraine.

After all it’s not our land that’s been invaded by a bunch of foul smelling potato munchers. It’s not our families that have been killed and raped, it’s not our houses that have been destroyed.

When the dust has settled and the peace is won then we can look at Ukraine and judge their actions.

 

[PhilM]

Realistically it'll be land for peace. Not what the majority on the forum want but even with the amount of arms the US are selling to the Ukraine it would cost far to many civilian deaths for the Ukraine to fight for as long as that would take even if it was remotely possible. Putin has proved how unhinged he is and the risk he would start bombarding the North of the Ukraine on a daily basis is surely not a risk worth taking?

I think that'll eventually be the outcome too, but it's not as clear cut as simply accepting a peace deal - that itself may cause more long-term failings.

We all desire peace; the issue is that the peace can't be so base that it emboldens Russia through, to extent, justifying their invasion and their onslaught.

This means (and I say this honestly) that, sadly and regrettably, more lives will have to be lost on both sides otherwise all the other deaths will be in vain.

If we're so worried about what Russia may do, why did we (literally and morally) take up arms against them in the first place?

This isn't 'wanting war' or devaluing the lives of all the men, women and children on both sides, but sadly a review of how this and many other conflicts play out.

While I feel sorry for the individual Russian soldiers, I think we've got realistically understand that they (the RA) needs beating, and that means more of them dead.

 

[davids]

I think that'll eventually be the outcome too, but it's not as clear cut as simply accepting a peace deal - that itself may cause more long-term failings.

We all desire peace; the issue is that the peace can't be so base that it emboldens Russia through, to extent, justifying their invasion and their onslaught.

This means (and I say this honestly) that, sadly and regrettably, more lives will have to be lost on both sides otherwise all the other deaths will be in vain.

If we're so worried about what Russia may do, why did we (literally and morally) take up arms against them in the first place?

This isn't 'wanting war' or devaluing the lives of all the men, women and children on both sides, but sadly a review of how this and many other conflicts play out.

While I feel sorry for the individual Russian soldiers, I think we've got realistically understand that they (the RA) needs beating, and that means more of them dead.

There is a valid point there,but being realistic Ukraine can do no more than fight a battle of slow retreat. Which then involves more areas of higher civilian density. The last week has shown Russia going to a more long distance missile strike strategy which will no doubt involve more and more the areas away from the Donbass region. I know I'm being cynical but this war benefits the West post Covid economically and politically. See how Boris jetted off to Kiev to play make believe Churchill as the pressure on him built. The US economy is being boosted by the high oil prices and arms sales ( well lease loan) It's very easy to strategize from the comfort of our homes rather than cowering in an underground shelter. Time politicians stopped weighing their testicles and looked for a workable ceasefire.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

There is a valid point there,but being realistic Ukraine can do no more than fight a battle of slow retreat. Which then involves more areas of higher civilian density. The last week has shown Russia going to a more long distance missile strike strategy which will no doubt involve more and more the areas away from the Donbass region. I know I'm being cynical but this war benefits the West post Covid economically and politically. See how Boris jetted off to Kiev to play make believe Churchill as the pressure on him built. The US economy is being boosted by the high oil prices and arms sales ( well lease loan) It's very easy to strategize from the comfort of our homes rather than cowering in an underground shelter. Time politicians stopped weighing their testicles and looked for a workable ceasefire.

No one wants to see Ukraine to continue to get flattened, but it is inevitable for the foreseeable future.

 

[davids]

No one wants to see Ukraine to continue to get flattened, but it is inevitable for the foreseeable future.

Keep you buying Kleenex then,I'm sure the dogs dangles will post you enough footage of strikes on Russian troops. Is that your kettle boiling??

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Keep you buying Kleenex then,I'm sure the dogs dangles will post you enough footage of strikes on Russian troops. Is that your kettle boiling??

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My point remains, it is, unfortunately inevitable, that we will see much more levelling of Ukraine by your boys.

Any peace deal seems so far away unless there is more going on behind the scenes as has been mooted