Current Affairs Ukraine

[davids]

No I don’t wish them well. I wish they get turned around and pushed out of Ukraine. The Putin crowd who wanted this and those that did unspeakable acts together with the Chechens who volunteered to invade I would happily shoot myself.….

Thing is,theses halfwits are talking about your average Russian "squaddie" that they want to be tortured and shot if they surrender. Not Putin,his mob or the Chechen murder squads.

 

[davids]

I exposed you a few pages back and you’ve been on a frantic revenge mission ever since! All you’ve done us make yourself look even more daft!
Well done

Exposed me as what?

 

[davids]

I exposed you a few pages back and you’ve been on a frantic revenge mission ever since! All you’ve done us make yourself look even more daft!
Well done

You mean.Post #14,462 June 23, 2022
?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

US House of Representatives just authorised $100million from the USAF defence budget to be allocated to training Ukranian pilots on US aircraft.

Looks like the first step in Ukraine getting F-16 and A-10’s

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

US House of Representatives just authorised $100million from the USAF defence budget to be allocated to training Ukranian pilots on US aircraft.

Looks like the first step in Ukraine getting F-16 and A-10’s

I know these guys are pilots already, but I’d imagine it’ll still take many months to get this “off the ground” so to speak

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

No I don’t wish them well. I wish they get turned around and pushed out of Ukraine. The Putin crowd who wanted this and those that did unspeakable acts together with the Chechens who volunteered to invade I would happily shoot myself.….

They aren’t getting turned around any time soon, next best option… defeat them. Sad but true

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I know these guys are pilots already, but I’d imagine it’ll still take many months to get this “off the ground” so to speak

Yup I’d agree. The big thing will be training the ground crew and ensuring the logistics are all in place. The pilots will pick up the aircraft handling fairly quickly.

 

[davids]

They aren’t getting turned around any time soon, next best option… defeat them. Sad but true

So let's have your expert opinion on how many Ukraine civilian deaths that'll take.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

So let's have your expert opinion on how many Ukraine civilian deaths that'll take.

Too many, that’s why the invaders need to be stopped you plum

 

[davids]

Too many, that’s why the invaders need to be stopped you plum

You didn't say stopped you said defeated. And you have the cheek to throw childlike insults at me,your so dumb you don't understand your own posts.?

 

[varnish]

I take it you are referring to the BBC Panorama programme.

SAS unit repeatedly killed Afghan detainees, BBC finds​

https://www.bbc.co.uk › news

If I'm not mistaken, the British army claim to have trained 10s of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers. Hope their war/military discipline is better than those in the Paras.

SAS and Paras are two completely different regiments.

 

[peteblue]

I take it you are referring to the BBC Panorama programme.

SAS unit repeatedly killed Afghan detainees, BBC finds​

https://www.bbc.co.uk › news

If I'm not mistaken, the British army claim to have trained 10s of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers. Hope their war/military discipline is better than those in the Paras.

Do not believe all you hear from the BBC.…..

 

[PhilM]

Quoting the paras as an example of exemplary decency and integrity is not a good choice. They truly are the kopites of the British forces.

The Paras have a reputation - some of it good, other bits bad (I'm perhaps being lenient there).

But, while not defending certain actions, I've found that the nature of war and effective armed forces can or does cause such conflicts of morality and interests.

Elite units require a combination of training, ingenuity and aggression; while discipline is still pivotal, you'll find some of the former will diminish the latter.

The issue at hand is finding the balance as some of the most effective troops, due to their aggression and other traits, can be bordering towards indiscipline.

The Paras never served out in Iraq (Granby in '91), but they were meant to be deployed. Before they did, they caused chaos in Liverpool wanting to scrap.

In essence, great fighting infantry, but they're teetering close to their controversial nature. Colchester faces the brunt of it all the time.

Do not believe all you hear from the BBC.…..

Let's be honest Pete, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't true.

 

[peteblue]

The Paras have a reputation - some of it good, other bits bad (I'm perhaps being lenient there).

But, while not defending certain actions, I've found that the nature of war and effective armed forces can or does cause such conflicts of morality and interests.

Elite units require a combination of training, ingenuity and aggression; while discipline is still pivotal, you'll find some of the former will diminish the latter.

The issue at hand is finding the balance as some of the most effective troops, due to their aggression and other traits, can be bordering towards indiscipline.

The Paras never served out in Iraq (Granby in '91), but they were meant to be deployed. Before they did, they caused chaos in Liverpool wanting to scrap.

In essence, great fighting infantry, but they're teetering close to their controversial nature. Colchester faces the brunt of it all the time.


Let's be honest Pete, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't true.

Perhaps, but I thought I read that film used by the BBC was actually of Australian SAS……may be wrong though….

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

The Paras have a reputation - some of it good, other bits bad (I'm perhaps being lenient there).

But, while not defending certain actions, I've found that the nature of war and effective armed forces can or does cause such conflicts of morality and interests.

Elite units require a combination of training, ingenuity and aggression; while discipline is still pivotal, you'll find some of the former will diminish the latter.

The issue at hand is finding the balance as some of the most effective troops, due to their aggression and other traits, can be bordering towards indiscipline.

The Paras never served out in Iraq (Granby in '91), but they were meant to be deployed. Before they did, they caused chaos in Liverpool wanting to scrap.

In essence, great fighting infantry, but they're teetering close to their controversial nature. Colchester faces the brunt of it all the time.


Let's be honest Pete, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't true.

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