Time to get behind them

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It's a team that just doesn't endear itself to us Evertonians. I guess this is partly a corollary to the obscene money in football, its mercenary nature causing a schism between fans and players (a schism which is camouflaged by success but starkly highlighted when things go south). Such contrast/dichotomy is entirely understandable; when a football team , each member earning more in a week than most of its supporters earn in a year, perform like fattened (with a daily full English breakfast) donkeys, supporters have every right to turn their back on them.
Vicious circle? yes indeed. But such is life . I don't watch Everton anymore. Not because they lose, but because I discern that they don't really care. Ours is a team that too regularly 'downs tools'; that's a team I just can't get behind.
 
Everton fans have always been a good judge of character if this team downs tools surrenders and continually bends over like a submissive biatch
expect to hear plenty of Booooooooooooos !
 

Understand completely what posters are saying about the players doing there bit but we need to get behind them from the off. Some of them deserving of the support others less so. What we need to remember is this is our club and it's us supporters that will feel the hurt if things aren't turned around and the worst happens. We've had some bad times but I don't want to imagine what relagation would feel like. So cmon lets do our bit and at least we can hold our heads up and feel we did the best we could. Not for the overpaid players but for you, me and everyone else that is lucky enough to call themselves an Evertonian.
 
big bobs beard said:
We are rubbish. Probably the worst we have been in a long, long time. But if the atmosphere turns toxic on Sunday things will only get worse. I've posted on here in the past, and I truly believe this the ONLY reason we survived in the 90's and the 'Smith years' was the support of the fans . We rarely turned on the team even during horrific days and I believe it is that support that saved us in days gone by. If we turn toxic like Newcastle and Leeds or lethargic like Villa and Sunderland in their relegation years we are in big trouble. Teams are now looking at us as a soft touch turning on the team will only help them especially at Goodison, so however hard it is, the team and us ourselves need each other, boos, doom and gloom will only make thigs worse. Anyone who was there at the Wimbledon game will know we cannot get in that situation again. Write off what we hoped for this year and get behind them the alternative doesn't bare thinking about.
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Halleh bleeding lujiah. ... wish people had realised this three years ago. Booing yourvown plsyers does nothing good. There are other, better ways to express your dissatisfaction.
 
AndyC said:
Agree BBB.
I'm as concerned, even worried, as everybody else, but turning on the players on Sunday will not help.
Sunday and indeed the rest of this (so far) calamitous season is about supporting Everton and not crucifying individual players, at least not during the game.
Our problems lie deeper than just the team - get behind them to get a win and ease the doom and gloom.
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Just realised Unsy has only played one Prem game away and Koeman lost most of them under his tenure at our club COYB!
 
The fans haven't taken to the new players. They seem to be just blokes going through the motions, and not doing even that very well. And they're earning outrageous sums of money.
I wouldn't blame any supporter for voicing their frustration.
 
Was looking at a few games from our crap era on youtube and the ground did look so much more animated. I guess that's down to the fact we were awful and the fans felt like the players needed every bit of help they could get.

This bunch of mercenaries are a complete joke. I do question their passion and commitment to the cause. I can understand why there's a sense apathy from the fans. No doubt if there was a relegation battle the atmosphere at Goodison would be bouncing but that's down to the fact we love this club; not the players who happen to wear the blue shirt right now.
 

dannyboy said:
Was looking at a few games from our crap era on youtube and the ground did look so much more animated. I guess that's down to the fact we were awful and the fans felt like the players needed every bit of help they could get.

This bunch of mercenaries are a complete joke. I do question their passion and commitment to the cause. I can understand why there's a sense apathy from the fans. No doubt if there was a relegation battle the atmosphere at Goodison would be bouncing but that's down to the fact we love this club; not the players who happen to wear the blue shirt right now.
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Agree. Even in dark days we had players who showed they cared and at least tried. I just don't want to return to what was almost a decade of fear, constantly worrying about the humiliation of relegation. I didn't enjoy Easter for ten years!
 
Everton are hardly the only EPL team to get paid lots of money for not being very good, tbf. Players' wages and transfer fees in general are obscene.
deipnosophist said:
It's a team that just doesn't endear itself to us Evertonians. I guess this is partly a corollary to the obscene money in football, its mercenary nature causing a schism between fans and players (a schism which is camouflaged by success but starkly highlighted when things go south). Such contrast/dichotomy is entirely understandable; when a football team , each member earning more in a week than most of its supporters earn in a year, perform like fattened (with a daily full English breakfast) donkeys, supporters have every right to turn their back on them.
Vicious circle? yes indeed. But such is life . I don't watch Everton anymore. Not because they lose, but because I discern that they don't really care. Ours is a team that too regularly 'downs tools'; that's a team I just can't get behind.
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Which is why I'm getting more into watching lower division teams. Millwall v Sheffield Wednesday was more entertaining than some EPL games I've seen *cough* Man United v Spurs *cough* lots of Everton games *cough*

I think passion is overrated and I don't even know what it is in Everton terms, apart from being Duncan Ferguson, but those two teams were genuinely really enjoyable to watch (and Jordan Archer is a hell of a keeper), passion or no passion. Though there was certainly a lot of it coming from Neil Harris :rant:

If you want to protest, either make like the kopites and walk out, or just don't bother turning up. The players don't turn up, so why should I? I have better things to do with my time.
 
I can remember going to my first game (By myself) at GP. I took a 3 legged stool so I could see over the wall next to tunnel! It cost 6 shilling or 30 new pence. (If I remember correctly). However much it was, it seemed like an awful lot of money to me. We didn't have much! @deipnosophist your quote : "I guess this is partly a corollary to the obscene money in football, its mercenary nature causing a schism between fans and players (a schism which is camouflaged by success but starkly highlighted when things go south)." I never looked at footballers back then as being mercenaries, I do now though. But is it their fault? Probably not, but it will be the schism - as you say - that eventually turns me away. Do they earn/deserve it? Not that often.
 
St James the Less said:
I can remember going to my first game (By myself) at GP. I took a 3 legged stool so I could see over the wall next to tunnel! It cost 6 shilling or 30 new pence. (If I remember correctly). However much it was, it seemed like an awful lot of money to me. We didn't have much! @deipnosophist your quote : "I guess this is partly a corollary to the obscene money in football, its mercenary nature causing a schism between fans and players (a schism which is camouflaged by success but starkly highlighted when things go south)." I never looked at footballers back then as being mercenaries, I do now though. But is it their fault? Probably not, but it will be the schism - as you say - that eventually turns me away. Do they earn/deserve it? Not that often.
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Maybe you're right that it's not their fault but I look at the state of Williams' physical condition and compare what he's doing now to his performances over at Swansea and Wales... I can't help but think we're just one last big pay day for him.

Then we've got Schneiderlin who doesn't look like he could care less if he tried. That tackle he put in the other for his red card screamed of someone who fancied a Thursday night off in the near future. If I were in charge he'd be fined a week's wages.
 

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