2025/26 Thierno Barry

Going to have to have a look at his goals and general play again as I’m thinking his finishing is bang average (at best) - especially considering some of the sitters he’s missed.
Likewise what people are seeing that suggests potential, I think he looks like he never really seems to have control of the ball.
 
Neiler said:
Yep, 6 PL goals - so far, year 1.

That's a good base IMO at 23. He has headroom to develop.

DCL had an average of 3.84 goals per season while here.

Overall i think we need to create and help our forwards more.
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Sorry, but you can see that he has technical and situational deficiencies that just aren’t up to standard for where our starting striker need to be. He should be entering his prime next year so it’s not like it’s going to magically change. Think it’s best for both sides if we recoup what we can and reinvest. Beto can stay on as second choice.
 
He isn't good enough. Not sure why people are comparing his stats with DCL, we won nothing while he played for us and we won't win anything with Barry up front. Pretty sure some of the people who are happy to watch him play for us got to see us win things in the 80's and don't care if we win anything ever again. Some of us still have some ambition and would love to see our great club get silverware again, won't be happening with players like Barry around.
 
DualityNSNO said:
Igor Thiago went from a farmer's league to Belgium to Brentford, got a meniscus tear, sat out almost a full year and still came in and was stronger. I get what you're going for but we've just recruited poorly here with Barry. Maybe he comes good, sure, but at this point it's an expensive maybe.

As to goals total, he's missed some sitters that if it was DCL or Beto it'd be skirts and KFC aots.
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Maybe, but cherry picking examples doesn't mean it's a valid comparison.
 
Neiler said:
Yep, 6 PL goals - so far, year 1.

That's a good base IMO at 23. He has headroom to develop.

DCL had an average of 3.84 goals per season while here.

Overall i think we need to create and help our forwards more.
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None of this is good enough.

Be arsed with this "he's only 23".

He's closer to his prime than he is to being an academy graduate.

6 goals and the general quality of his all round play is fairly crap.
 
Efcjake said:
None of this is good enough.

Be arsed with this "he's only 23".

He's closer to his prime than he is to being an academy graduate.

6 goals and the general quality of his all round play is fairly crap.
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Not so sure mate, its 7 years until hes 30, i think ther eis more to come.

I agree his all round game and straight could improve - but also feel we are very slow in transtion going forward and that's hard for forwards.
 
Jebus_lives said:
Id like to see him post summer after a programme of strength work and coaching. Added to his finishing, it could elevate his game.

I think the jump to the PL is huge, especially from Spain and Belgium and he hasn't been given the time to develop on that outside of being thrown into the 1st team.

I also think, regardless of who we have as our starting CF, we should not expect them to be consistently scoring more than 10 goals a year as Moyes does not play a brand of football that enables CFs to have a higher return. Yakubu aside, the high mark for Moyes strikers is about 12.
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Absolutely spot on. Good post.
 
You could quite honestly put Haaland or Harry Kane in a David Moyes side and they’d struggle to get beyond 10-12 goals a season. Our style of play just doesn’t create a lot of chances for the forwards. Irrespective of whether we have the money to buy a proven striker I’d question if a proven striker would consider joining us based on the number of chances we create and the style of play.
It gives an unfair representation of any striker we have.
 
Jebus_lives said:
Id like to see him post summer after a programme of strength work and coaching. Added to his finishing, it could elevate his game.

I think the jump to the PL is huge, especially from Spain and Belgium and he hasn't been given the time to develop on that outside of being thrown into the 1st team.

I also think, regardless of who we have as our starting CF, we should not expect them to be consistently scoring more than 10 goals a year as Moyes does not play a brand of football that enables CFs to have a higher return. Yakubu aside, the high mark for Moyes strikers is about 12.
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He’s moved clubs every year for the last 4, or 5 years.
 
evertony said:
You could quite honestly put Haaland or Harry Kane in a David Moyes side and they’d struggle to get beyond 10-12 goals a season. Our style of play just doesn’t create a lot of chances for the forwards. Irrespective of whether we have the money to buy a proven striker I’d question if a proven striker would consider joining us based on the number of chances we create and the style of play.
It gives an unfair representation of any striker we have.
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Well..looking at individual seasons.. Bowen scored 20, 18 and 13 under Moyes. Defoe 15, Yak 21, Rooney 19, Van Persie 18, Saha 13, Fellaini 11, Arnautovic 11, Soucek 10 and 10, Vela 10, Antonio 14, 13 and 10, Beattie 11, Cahill 10, Johnson 10, Campbell 10, Welbeck 10.

Probably missed loads, but not as impossible as you may imagine to get double figures in a Moyes side.
 
MACCA75 said:
Well..looking at individual seasons.. Bowen scored 20, 18 and 13 under Moyes. Defoe 15, Yak 21, Rooney 19, Van Persie 18, Saha 13, Fellaini 11, Arnautovic 11, Soucek 10 and 10, Vela 10, Antonio 14, 13 and 10, Beattie 11, Cahill 10, Johnson 10, Campbell 10, Welbeck 10.

Probably missed loads, but not as impossible as you may imagine to get double figures in a Moyes side.
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That Antonio is the kind of player I would have expected him to be looking for.
He loved him at west ham.

He was a unit and had a bit of pace about him, probably been showing Beto videos of him..
 

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