Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

[Toffeepot]

Telling me an anti-semite terror supporter has "helped me out" -- especially when ive had them on ignore for months -- doesnt seem logical.

If youre alluding to someone either

A: Being in fear for their life - they would claim asylum in their nearest safe haven.

B: Choosing to take an arduous journey without fear for their life, then they have options.


Neither A nor B have any logical reason to risk a channel crossing in a dinghy for health, well being or suchlike. They are risking their lives because they are in fear for their life or want to see friends/relatives lol

Want to see friends/relatives then apply for a visa.



You're someone with no conviction in their argument. A freeloader with their only goal to prioritise criminals over legal actions.

Update me when you try this in China or Iran...



Cant relate to ignorant stupid selfish racists no.

You're now my favourite simpleton
It's like watching a political debate on love island

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Part of the reason why waiting times at hospitals in the UK are so long are down to asylum seekers such as this. We must get in our specific part of the hospital at least 5-10 people a day who come for appointments who don't speak English, or understand it. So the language aspect is nonsense from your information. That isn't factoring in every other part of the hospital, not 10 in each one but as an example of how many people without a basic understanding of the language arrive for appointments. Plus the cost that goes with that, paying interpreters which thankfully can be offset in some (not all) cases via telephone which is cheaper.

I know from reading your previous posts about this subject you will be quite dimissive of the above so to be honest it isn't worth us discussing it at polar opposite ends of the topic. I just wanted to mention one aspect of the information you shared that, has a detrimental impact on the country and isn't true.

I'm pretty sure every maternity ward will have dozens of people coming in every day who don't speak English. Should we not treat babies because they're only able to communicate in [Poor language removed] and vomit?

 

[jaspercabbage]

J D Vance and the invisible couch.

 

[Toffeepot]

Part of the reason why waiting times at hospitals in the UK are so long are down to asylum seekers such as this. We must get in our specific part of the hospital at least 5-10 people a day who come for appointments who don't speak English, or understand it. So the language aspect is nonsense from your information. That isn't factoring in every other part of the hospital, not 10 in each one but as an example of how many people without a basic understanding of the language arrive for appointments. Plus the cost that goes with that, paying interpreters which thankfully can be offset in some (not all) cases via telephone which is cheaper.

I know from reading your previous posts about this subject you will be quite dimissive of the above so to be honest it isn't worth us discussing it at polar opposite ends of the topic. I just wanted to mention one aspect of the information you shared that, has a detrimental impact on the country and isn't true.

It's down to reduced funding and staff shortages is it not!?
Where's all the money Farage and Boris promised for the NHS?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

 

[Harryflashman]

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Yeah but you can prove anything with facts

 

[trueblue84]

Another insane appointment

When is judge Judy getting a job?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Hospitals with longest A&E waiting times
Not really high immigration areas

 

[efcste97]

HAHAHA

 

[Zatara]

This took 5 seconds to find https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/understanding-channel-crossings/

A super brain like you "could" have done that research himself, but you choose to wallow in your prejudice and ignorance instead.

1: Other countries (on the way to UK) take in far more asylum seekers.

=As they should do for genuine asylum seekers.

2: A significant number of asylum seekers CHOOSE to try to get to the UK.

= In which case they are not genuine asylum seekers, simply those persons who decide to get into the UK under false pretences.

Even a simpleton can read between the lines here -- but there's no need as its spelled out in black and white.

Part of the reason why waiting times at hospitals in the UK are so long are down to asylum seekers such as this. We must get in our specific part of the hospital at least 5-10 people a day who come for appointments who don't speak English, or understand it. So the language aspect is nonsense from your information. That isn't factoring in every other part of the hospital, not 10 in each one but as an example of how many people without a basic understanding of the language arrive for appointments. Plus the cost that goes with that, paying interpreters which thankfully can be offset in some (not all) cases via telephone which is cheaper.

I know from reading your previous posts about this subject you will be quite dimissive of the above so to be honest it isn't worth us discussing it at polar opposite ends of the topic. I just wanted to mention one aspect of the information you shared that, has a detrimental impact on the country and isn't true.

If there are millions of people added to the population then of course there will be more pressure on services.

I read an article (maybe posted in here) stating that there were the same concerns as you posted -- where a local council (?) stated that those concerns were unfounded due to a local private hospital being paid to cater for those exact asylum seekers -- on top of free lodging and meals of course.

As Bruce Wayne's quote attests to, a significant amount of these undocumented people are choosing to get into the UK -- rather than e.g France.

I wonder why...

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

1: Other countries (on the way to UK) take in far more asylum seekers.

=As they should do for genuine asylum seekers.

2: A significant number of asylum seekers CHOOSE to try to get to the UK.

= In which case they are not genuine asylum seekers, simply those persons who decide to get into the UK under false pretences.

Even a simpleton can read between the lines here -- but there's no need as its spelled out in black and white.



If there are millions of people added to the population then of course there will be more pressure on services.

I read an article (maybe posted in here) stating that there were the same concerns as you posted -- where a local council (?) stated that those concerns were unfounded due to a local private hospital being paid to cater for those exact asylum seekers -- on top of free lodging and meals of course.

As Bruce Wayne's quote attests to, a significant amount of these undocumented people are choosing to get into the UK -- rather than e.g France.

I wonder why...

So incredibly stupid. You have no understanding of anything

 

[Bruce Wayne]

1: Other countries (on the way to UK) take in far more asylum seekers.

=As they should do for genuine asylum seekers.

2: A significant number of asylum seekers CHOOSE to try to get to the UK.

= In which case they are not genuine asylum seekers, simply those persons who decide to get into the UK under false pretences.

Even a simpleton can read between the lines here -- but there's no need as its spelled out in black and white.



If there are millions of people added to the population then of course there will be more pressure on services.

I read an article (maybe posted in here) stating that there were the same concerns as you posted -- where a local council (?) stated that those concerns were unfounded due to a local private hospital being paid to cater for those exact asylum seekers -- on top of free lodging and meals of course.

As Bruce Wayne's quote attests to, a significant amount of these undocumented people are choosing to get into the UK -- rather than e.g France.

I wonder why...

Again, you could spend literally 5 seconds learning things

The truth about asylum - Refugee Council

Looking for the facts about asylum? You can rely on the facts and figures in this article to give you the true picture about asylum.

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk

• There is no such thing as an "illegal" or "bogus" person seeking asylum. Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Convention and to remain there until the authorities have assessed their claim.
• It is recognised in the 1951 Convention that people fleeing persecution may have to use irregular means in order to escape and claim asylum in another country – there is no legal way to travel to the UK for the specific purpose of seeking asylum.
• The 1951 Refugee Convention guarantees everybody the right to apply for asylum. It has saved millions of lives. No country has ever withdrawn from it.

There is nothing in international law to say that refugees must claim asylum in the first country they reach. A European regulation allows countries in the EU to return an adult asylum applicant to the first European country they reached. This means that countries on the edge of Europe have responsibility for a lot more people seeking asylum than others. Some of the countries through which people travel to get to Europe are unsafe for some. Many have not signed the Refugee Convention, meaning that people who remain there will not get international protection and be able to rebuild their lives

 

[HSWR]

I'm pretty sure every maternity ward will have dozens of people coming in every day who don't speak English. Should we not treat babies because they're only able to communicate in [Poor language removed] and vomit?

The dismissive response I did expect.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The dismissive response I did expect.

In response to your anecdotal post? Yes.

 

[COYBL25]

There are very few people where I Iive that don't speak any English and the waiting time in the hospital is still hours and hours.

My missus works in Whiston Hospital, which covers what has to be one of the whitest areas in the UK and the corridors are still overflowing with patients, no matter what time of year.

Every hospital seems to be the same, no matter what the demographics of the area.