Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

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so it is about the minutiae of the act then? I suppose we could assess the character of the kicker to make a better judgement. Does he for example regularly support other nut kickers? If he does I would say it is beyond a reasonable doubt that it was a kick in the nuts
That would be a logical assumption 👍

But then we get into the deeper question (and to go back to the salute instead of talking about me getting kicked in the balls)

Did he do it because
a. He is a nazi and couldn't help himself
b. To make it the main talking point of the day and distract from the executive orders
c. A stealth move to normalise extremism
d. Just an unfortunate incident

FWIW, I don't give D much credence, I think a bit of B and a lot of C is the most likely explanation
 
That would be a logical assumption 👍

But then we get into the deeper question (and to go back to the salute instead of talking about me getting kicked in the balls)

Did he do it because
a. He is a nazi and couldn't help himself
b. To make it the main talking point of the day and distract from the executive orders
c. A stealth move to normalise extremism
d. Just an unfortunate incident

FWIW, I don't give D much credence, I think a bit of B and a lot of C is the most likely explanation
yes we'll leave your balls alone!

I think it is a mixture of a and c
trump is proud of this batch of executive orders, I don't think he would want his thunder stolen
 
If musk did that to completely rile up the other side, it worked. Whether or not it was what people say it was, or the meaning behind it, if he intended to get a lot of people worked up on a day that they weren't exactly happy about, he has played a blinder as a wind up merchant.

For all the discussion about it, everyone is talking about musk at a time where he is potentially sitting in the white house, making him (Im)famous.

Perhaps people should take a step back and consider if he has just gone fishing and the people he aimed it at took the bait?

Especially if it has no bearing on his role in American politics. I mean most people who are just angry on the internet aren't even on his platform anyway!
 
That would be a logical assumption 👍

But then we get into the deeper question (and to go back to the salute instead of talking about me getting kicked in the balls)

Did he do it because
a. He is a nazi and couldn't help himself
b. To make it the main talking point of the day and distract from the executive orders
c. A stealth move to normalise extremism
d. Just an unfortunate incident

FWIW, I don't give D much credence, I think a bit of B and a lot of C is the most likely explanation

Good post.

I would actually say it is mainly B & C, as you said, but would throw a little bit of A in the mix. I don't think he is a Nazi as we knew them and would define them, but there is a bit of fascism in him. My opinion is that it is more attributed to his own personal greed, rather than an ideology. He is just an unbelievably immoral person rather than a Nazi.
 
If musk did that to completely rile up the other side, it worked. Whether or not it was what people say it was, or the meaning behind it, if he intended to get a lot of people worked up on a day that they weren't exactly happy about, he has played a blinder as a wind up merchant.

Perhaps people should take a step back and consider if he has just gone fishing and the people he aimed it at took the bait?

I think it’s quite possible (regarding his intent).

Let’s suppose it is true, and he intended to rile up the lefties. Good job, well done.

What do you think actual neo-nazis thought about it?

They’ll have been quite pleased, no? Might feel vindicated. Maybe a bit empowered? Maybe the Proud Boys who were being released from prison the same day, felt quite good about it as well.

Empowering Nazis is hell of a trade off to annoy some people online.
 
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I think it’s quite possible (regarding his intent).

Let’s suppose it is true, and he intended to rile up the lefties. Good job, well done.

What you think actual neo-nazis thought about it?

They’ll have been quite pleased, no? Might feel vindicated. Maybe a bit empowered? Maybe the Proud Boys who were being released from prison the same day, felt quite good about it as well.

Empowering Nazis is hell of a trade off to annoy some people online.
There is simply no chance, that someone who is used to and trained in public speaking, accidentally does a gesture that can be construed as being a nazi salute on stage in the manner he did it. :lol:

It cannot happen. I don’t see how hard that is to comprehend. Apologists should be ashamed or just admit they quite like the Nazis.
 
There is simply no chance, that someone who is used to and trained in public speaking, accidentally does a gesture that can be construed as being a nazi salute on stage in the manner he did it. :lol:

It cannot happen. I don’t see how hard that is to comprehend. Apologists should be ashamed or just admit they quite like the Nazis.
nazi's don't have shame, and the only admitting they do is of people they don't like into internment camps. The rot brained runt in this thread despised fake trans persons because they are apparently deviant dress wearing drug rapists. And here that same rot brained runt is coughing up in support of nazi saluting 'paedo-guy' abuse shouters.

What a correlation.
 
I think it’s quite possible (regarding his intent).

Let’s suppose it is true, and he intended to rile up the lefties. Good job, well done.

What do you think actual neo-nazis thought about it?

They’ll have been quite pleased, no? Might feel vindicated. Maybe a bit empowered? Maybe the Proud Boys who were being released from prison the same day, felt quite good about it as well.

Empowering Nazis is hell of a trade off to annoy some people online.
I don't believe people pay too much attention to groups like that to consider it. Sure it's talked about and mentioned online but if you weren't reading about the names of these groups, unless you were directly affected by them then would you know they exist? Same as Tommy Robinson here, I'd have never known who he was if the media and internet talk about him.

If it is the case then it's juvenile from musk , but I don't believe the big bad neo Nazis are even a blip on anyone's radar politically, such small a number they would be. Much the same as the BNP being the big bad racist right wing barely got any votes.
 
Far too much spent on why he did it, if he did it.

He did it cos hes a Nazi, surrounded by Nazis, supported by Nazis.

When people tell you what they are, LISTEN.
It's funny that one thing said about the 'left' is that they tend to label anyone against them on any subject as Nazis and since Monday that's all that's been said 😂 a term losing its meaning if you keep saying it and all that.

Wouldn't describe musk anything other than that gesture mind you but amusing that people have adopted the stereotype on the subject even if it is stating the obvious this time.
 
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