Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

[Toffeepot]

No one’s ‘far right’ according to these people. He probably doesn’t even consider the AfD to be far right. This idea that the ‘Overton window’ shifted left is complete BS, there’s not a proper left leaning party in the uk or us.

Definite right shift over the years.
Democrats made the mistake of moving right to appease some people but instead should have leaned into Bernie/AOC policies which benefit the average dope who voted for the price of eggs over every benefit they will now lose

 

[Harryflashman]

I don’t know what he meant by it but I mean it was definitely a nazi/fascist salute right ? so much so when I first saw it I was absolutely convinced it was AI , then having seen it I can’t process how I’m being told it isn’t what I’ve seen . It all feels proper odd to be honest .

 

[tsubaki]

What would Jesus do

We know exactly what he’d do; Matthew 25 makes it explicitly clear.

 

[TN Toffee]

How many murderers refute the allegation? Is that it then? 'Did you kill Mr. Smith?' 'No' 'ok case dismissed because it must be fact'

I recently broke the 100m record. It's a fact now

The absolute state of you

OJ Simpson, 100% innocent. He said it wasn’t him, so it must be so. Never mind his blood being smeared all over everything at multiple locations.

 

[Toffeepot]

We know exactly what he’d do; Matthew 25 makes it explicitly clear.

Not reading all that mate

 

[RD2910]

It's also a reddit post reply - therefore an opinion. Musk's reply isn't opinion, as it's him that did it, it's fact.

He refutes the allegation, therefore it's not a Roman salute. It's really not that difficult to understand. You all jump in two-footed with your accusations, then double down when it's proven false.

Absolutely typical of this forum at the moment.

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read.

 

[Amw79]

The one in the middle with his hand veering slightly to the right is just pointing out a rare bird he spotted = Naz-no

Also spotted the cricket umpire toward the bottom right, presume he’s signalling a wicket.

Naz-no

 

[tsubaki]

Not reading all that mate

You should, the third bit of it (25:31 onwards) is one of my favourite bits of it.

“"In truth I tell you, in so far as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me.”

 

[d34noj]

Whether it was a Nazi salute or not, only Musk really knows. To me it looked a bit similar but what his intentions were, I don't know for certain. But I definitely wouldn't take Musk denial as definitive evidence that it wasn't. What else is he going to say?

As for the photos you posted as a comparison - a screenshot is a million miles away from a video. I think you already know that though, which is why you have so far refused the challenge to post the videos that the stills came from. That is a very disingenuous and dishonest style of discussion.

Having said that, you are correct that this forum in general, and this thread specifically have essentially become echo chambers, but that is because very few people actually take an opposing view in good faith. Perhaps if enough people were brave enough to do that, it could be a much better forum?

You seem like one of the VERY few who engage in civil discussion, and for that I thank you.

I wasn't aware that I was challenged to post videos - I don't have them and really can't be arsed to find them if they're readily available. It's not disingenuous as I stated from the off that 'just because something looks like it, doesn't necessarily mean it is'. The photo looks like a hatful of Nazi salutes - it's not, but it looks it. WHICH IS MY POINT.


This forum is a hate filled, self-serving echo chamber where if the party line isn't towed - you're bombarded with abuse from the #BE NICE gang.


I have an OPINION - 'AN OPINION' that Elon Musk wouldn't be stupid enough to do an actual Roman salute twice live on TV. Yes it looks like it, of course it does, I don't believe that's his intention. For this, i'm called effing stupid, a clown, thick as a carrier bag - from the very people who claim to be the morally superior.


GRAND OLD TEAM.
Our priority has always remained the same – to provide the very best place on the web for fans worldwide to congregate and discuss Everton Football Club. GrandOldTeam prides itself on offering Everton fans a place for intelligent and respectful debate.

What a joke.

 

[NeroCeasar]

i'm obviously a simpleton.

The truest statement ever posted on the internet

 

[Charro]

You seem like one of the VERY few who engage in civil discussion, and for that I thank you.

I wasn't aware that I was challenged to post videos - I don't have them and really can't be arsed to find them if they're readily available. It's not disingenuous as I stated from the off that 'just because something looks like it, doesn't necessarily mean it is'. The photo looks like a hatful of Nazi salutes - it's not, but it looks it. WHICH IS MY POINT.


This forum is a hate filled, self-serving echo chamber where if the party line isn't towed - you're bombarded with abuse from the #BE NICE gang.


I have an OPINION - 'AN OPINION' that Elon Musk wouldn't be stupid enough to do an actual Roman salute twice live on TV. Yes it looks like it, of course it does, I don't believe that's his intention. For this, i'm called effing stupid, a clown, thick as a carrier bag - from the very people who claim to be the morally superior.


GRAND OLD TEAM.
Our priority has always remained the same – to provide the very best place on the web for fans worldwide to congregate and discuss Everton Football Club. GrandOldTeam prides itself on offering Everton fans a place for intelligent and respectful debate.

What a joke.

I answered your question, mate.

Could you answer mine on who you consider far left?

 

[Toffeepot]

You seem like one of the VERY few who engage in civil discussion, and for that I thank you.

I wasn't aware that I was challenged to post videos - I don't have them and really can't be arsed to find them if they're readily available. It's not disingenuous as I stated from the off that 'just because something looks like it, doesn't necessarily mean it is'. The photo looks like a hatful of Nazi salutes - it's not, but it looks it. WHICH IS MY POINT.


This forum is a hate filled, self-serving echo chamber where if the party line isn't towed - you're bombarded with abuse from the #BE NICE gang.


I have an OPINION - 'AN OPINION' that Elon Musk wouldn't be stupid enough to do an actual Roman salute twice live on TV. Yes it looks like it, of course it does, I don't believe that's his intention. For this, i'm called effing stupid, a clown, thick as a carrier bag - from the very people who claim to be the morally superior.


GRAND OLD TEAM.
Our priority has always remained the same – to provide the very best place on the web for fans worldwide to congregate and discuss Everton Football Club. GrandOldTeam prides itself on offering Everton fans a place for intelligent and respectful debate.

What a joke.

I know, it's shocking that supporting fascist ideologies and leaders is an unpopular opinion

You can't debate somebody who refuses to recognise facts

The absolute state of you

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

You seem like one of the VERY few who engage in civil discussion, and for that I thank you.

I wasn't aware that I was challenged to post videos - I don't have them and really can't be arsed to find them if they're readily available. It's not disingenuous as I stated from the off that 'just because something looks like it, doesn't necessarily mean it is'. The photo looks like a hatful of Nazi salutes - it's not, but it looks it. WHICH IS MY POINT.


This forum is a hate filled, self-serving echo chamber where if the party line isn't towed - you're bombarded with abuse from the #BE NICE gang.


I have an OPINION - 'AN OPINION' that Elon Musk wouldn't be stupid enough to do an actual Roman salute twice live on TV. Yes it looks like it, of course it does, I don't believe that's his intention. For this, i'm called effing stupid, a clown, thick as a carrier bag - from the very people who claim to be the morally superior.


GRAND OLD TEAM.
Our priority has always remained the same – to provide the very best place on the web for fans worldwide to congregate and discuss Everton Football Club. GrandOldTeam prides itself on offering Everton fans a place for intelligent and respectful debate.

What a joke.

You constantly tell every one you aren’t right wing then constantly defend right wing actions and behaviours. I’ve seen you do it in multiple threads.
I’m not sure if you’re lying to yourself or everyone else - we arent falling for it

The thing is, id have far more respect for you if you just fessed up and owned it

 

[d34noj]

I know, it's shocking that supporting fascist ideologies and leaders is an unpopular opinion

You can't debate somebody who refuses to recognise facts

The absolute state of you

Just point to where I've supported a fascist ideology.

I'll wait.

 

[COYBL25]

The one in the middle with his hand veering slightly to the right is just pointing out a rare bird he spotted = Naz-no