Current Affairs The worst post-war Prime Minister

[Ruairi77]

She’ll be getting the blame for the second Croatia goal next........

Fair enough, seems her transport secretary, Parkinson, agitated for it but nothing really happened till Major.
Mea culpa.

 

[SteveSC]

I didn't know that someone had to live through a prime minister to have hard facts on their level of success.

Mad to think someone can only have knowledge if they live through something. Here is me thinking that you can always read up on someone or do in depth research into a topic any topic.

Some of the comments are hilarious.

 

[Methuselah]

Bizarre

You really do not like answering questions do you. The sense I get from your posts and your reluctance to debate is that you are still at school. Does the teacher know you are on the internet under the desk?

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Again you've changed your statement, what you have stated here highlighted is a matter of historical fact, the original statement, 'Labour put the country in the worst

In 1979 the Conservatives won with a majority of over 40 seats. In 1983 Thatcher had improved things so much that Conservatives won the 1983 election with 143 seat majority. They are facts by the way. I would be interested in knowing why you think Labour lost those two elections considering you think it is only my opinion? Of course I've changed my statement, its a different post. I haven't changed the principle.

walk into the middle of an old mining town in fife, Yorkshire, Northumberland etc etc with a t shirt saying ‘thatcher was a great PM and sorted this country out’ and then let us know what the food at the local hospital is like.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

In 1979 the Conservatives won with a majority of over 40 seats. In 1983 Thatcher had improved things so much that Conservatives won the 1983 election with 143 seat majority. They are facts by the way. I would be interested in knowing why you think Labour lost those two elections considering you think it is only my opinion? Of course I've changed my statement, its a different post. I haven't changed the principle.

Thatcher romped home in the ‘83 election despite mass unemployment and a recession during her first term, due directly to the flag waving pomp of defending a rock in the South Atlantic. The newly formed SDP splitting the labour vote didn’t help either, but don’t let facts get in the way.

 

[Walken]

You really do not like answering questions do you. The sense I get from your posts and your reluctance to debate is that you are still at school. Does the teacher know you are on the internet under the desk?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you've successfully hit rock bottom, I'm pretty convinced by your replies that you don't even understand my original point as your questions are utterly irrelavant to that point. But please continue to resorting to name calling and expose yourself further.

 

[Methuselah]

I didn't know that someone had to live through a prime minister to have hard facts on their level of success.

Mad to think someone can only have knowledge if they live through something. Here is me thinking that you can always read up on someone or do in depth research into a topic any topic.

Some of the comments are hilarious.

No one as said you can only have knowledge if you've lived through something. But if you haven't lived through it you have to rely on someone else's opinion be it the Daily Worker or the Daily Mail.

 

[Methuselah]

Thatcher romped home in the ‘83 election despite mass unemployment and a recession during her first term, due directly to the flag waving pomp of defending a rock in the South Atlantic. The newly formed SDP splitting the labour vote didn’t help either, but don’t let facts get in the way.

And the electorate also considered her, rightly, the best person to sort the economic problems, which she did.

 

[SteveSC]

No one as said you can only have knowledge if you've lived through something. But if you haven't lived through it you have to rely on someone else's opinion be it the Daily Worker or the Daily Mail.

You literally did just that and you know this because you are getting defensive and replying to me given that i didn't quote you or mention you how did you know i was talking about you?

You dismissed others facts and opinions by saying you lived through it.

As for the second part highlighted what on earth are you talking about?

You do know this is the age of the internet and just about anything is online now for research. You can find information from many sources archived on here historical archives and opnion pieces alike. That and many opinions from scholars and current and retired politicians and analysts from yester year. Then you can ask anyone for their opinion much likes yours who was around that you can garner fact from.

Failing that you can go to a library and find factual information.

But sure everyone else i guess reads the daily worker or daily mail to counter your points??

 

[Methuselah]

walk into the middle of an old mining town in fife, Yorkshire, Northumberland etc etc with a t shirt saying ‘thatcher was a great PM and sorted this country out’ and then let us know what the food at the local hospital is like.

Well, for 10 years I played football for a team in the Yorkshire League. Several colliery teams. Rawmarsh MW, Grimethorpe Colliery, Hatfield Main Colliery, Thorn Colliery, South Kirby Colliery, Denaby Utd (ex Colliery side) who had Charlie Williams the comedian as player manager). Got to know a lot of the lads. During the miners strike I used to drive up to Yorkshire a lot on business. Always called in the mining villages and dropped off stuff at the miners welfare. Bags of spuds, tins of beans, loaves etc., So if I turned up in many mining towns I think I would get a shake of the hand. To be fair, if they remember me 40 odd years on.

 

[Methuselah]

You literally did just that and you know this because you are getting defensive and replying to me given that i didn't quote you or mention you how did you know i was talking about you?

You dismissed others facts and opinions by saying you lived through it.

As for the second part highlighted what on earth are you talking about?

You do know this is the age of the internet and just about anything is online now for research. You can find information from many sources archived on here historical archives and opnion pieces alike. That and many opinions from scholars and current and retired politicians and analysts from yester year. Then you can ask anyone for their opinion much likes yours who was around that you can garner fact from.

Failing that you can go to a library and find factual information.

But sure everyone else i guess reads the daily worker or daily mail to counter your points??

I used the Daily Worker and Daily Mail as extremes to make my point. Sorry, didn't know it would be over your head.

 

[SteveSC]

I used the Daily Worker and Daily Mail as extremes to make my point. Sorry, didn't know it would be over your head.

Ah yes the trick of trying to pretend you were being funny and using it to ignore comments and try put down someone.

Not really a good reply though was it. Claiming it was over my head doesn't excuse the fact that you have no answer to how absurd your comment was as was your initial one.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

walk into the middle of an old mining town in fife, Yorkshire, Northumberland etc etc with a t shirt saying ‘thatcher was a great PM and sorted this country out’ and then let us know what the food at the local hospital is like.

Genuinely curious whether you think all of the mines should have been kept open (ie carrying on as they were in the 70s), whether they should have been kept open and reformed, or whether they should have been shut but the closures handled differently?

 

[peteblue]

walk into the middle of an old mining town in fife, Yorkshire, Northumberland etc etc with a t shirt saying ‘thatcher was a great PM and sorted this country out’ and then let us know what the food at the local hospital is like.

Or one with ‘Scargill saved the mines’.......

 

[Methuselah]

Ah yes the trick of trying to pretend you were being funny and using it to ignore comments and try put down someone.

Not really a good reply though was it. Claiming it was over my head doesn't excuse the fact that you have no answer to how absurd your comment was as was your initial one.

No, I wasn't trying to be funny, I was being serious. But keep calm, getting het up in the current climate is not good for you.