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Charro said:
Oliver stone is the mainstream though.

He’s done a five part interview with Putin that’s on sky. It doesn’t get more mainstream than an Oscar winner and one of the most successful film directors of all time creating something for sky.

You go on like you’re the only person who’s watched his stuff. It’s weird.

Any half decent critical thinker would look at his relationship with Putin and question anything he says about the situation in Eastern Europe.

Mainstream media isn’t just the BBC you know.
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verreauxi said:
Your entire ignorant post was dripping with self-righteousness and ITK. I called you out on it, as did others. You've tried to walk it back now twice, and both times you've come off like a hog on ice.

You are clearly confused and need help. I mean it. I don't fume when I easily swat-away your ignorant ramblings--it's more like a combination of pity and self-amusement. You are an easy target because you are all cringey gaffe and no substance, fed by a healthy diet of far-right youtube videos. Imagine being born into this life only to waste your later years in perpetual self-embarrassment on the internet. Jog on you non-essential mooncalf.
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Wasting your time, circle-jerk is a katie hopkins light, take the pish insted. works wonders.
 
Martin Alvito said:
1) Context is important. Asimov writing about things that would not come to pass until decades later is impressive. The better part of a century later, this may not seem as impressive to you at first glance. Orwell did very well for himself on this dimension. 1984 and Animal Farm were prescient indeed.

2) You don't have to be a 'great writer' in the literary sense to be a 'great science-fiction writer'. Bradbury was a super-strong writer, judged on literary terms. Orwell and Heinlein were good. Asimov and Clarke were average.

They are all legends of science fiction for a reason. Asimov and Clarke made up for technical weaknesses on the ideas side. All five were extremely influential, and remain so. Heinlein probably comes off the worst of the five in terms of long-term legacy, but Starship Troopers has been retold well by two successive generations. Stranger In a Strange Land was one of the big counterculture books. All five writers still matter.
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We had a very short discussion about science fiction a while ago and although i thought the Foundation books were brilliant it`s not really my thing. I`ll get a copy of Animal Farm sometime but 1984 as good an idea as it is was very forgettable in a literary sense and in no way did it make me want to re-read it. I`d sooner re-read stuff by John Irving or Kurt Vonnegut whose ideas and characterisations make them a stand out for me.

Have you read Horus Rising by Dan Abnett?
 
catcherintherye said:
But why did you bring Orwell into the conversation, to defend your point of view, if you disagree with him?
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I don`t disagree with him! I was making a comparison between what he wrote as in everything is turned on its head i.e.war is peace to what is happening now i.e. antifa are fascists.
 
Oddball said:
I don`t disagree with him! I was making a comparison between what he wrote as in everything is turned on its head i.e.war is peace to what is happening now i.e. antifa are fascists.
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Ah ok. But they're not fascists. They oppose fascists.

I think theyve lost their way a bit and I disagree on different things they do, but you cant go calling anyone you dont like a fascist.

Tommy Robinson and his gang of noncey mates are fascists.
 
Oddball said:
We had a very short discussion about science fiction a while ago and although i thought the Foundation books were brilliant it`s not really my thing. I`ll get a copy of Animal Farm sometime but 1984 as good an idea as it is was very forgettable in a literary sense and in no way did it make me want to re-read it. I`d sooner re-read stuff by John Irving or Kurt Vonnegut whose ideas and characterisations make them a stand out for me.

Have you read Horus Rising by Dan Abnett?
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I have not. I have read Irving, he's good, but I haven't had the itch to reread any of it for some time. Vonnegut I have also read, and he's not my personal cup of tea. Abnett is a new one on me.

Point being, what doesn't impress you may impress others, and the community that reads science fiction heavily probably weights criteria differently than you do when rendering judgment. If that's the stuff you like, I would point you to William Gibson and to stuff like Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell.
 
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