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[ForeverBlue92]

Running amok? Smashing property? One statue of a slave trader hit the drink lad.

Send in the Army though lol

How very left of centre.

Sadly it isn't going to end at that - inevitable clashes between BLM & EDL/footie hooligans this weekend whilst talk on the grapevine of more statues being attacked.

Im not one for calling for the army/police but we are in unprecedented times with a killer virus knocking around whilst these idiots are treating it as a jolly up.

Get them on the streets as a visual deterrent and stop the nonsense before it escalates and we are stuck back in lockdown for another 3 months.

 

[Papa Shango]

Get the army in - lunatics running the asylum with this inept government letting thugs and loons run amok smashing property and removing things in an undemocratic manner all whilst us law abiding majority are social distancing having made enormous sacrifices these past 3 months.

Yeah get the authorities in to point guns at black people.

Why has nobody thought of this already? What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Kenshin]

If protestors are focusing on the past then they are offering nothing to the present problem.

Which means their protests are a waste of time.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Yeah get the authorities in to point guns at black people.

Why has nobody thought of this already? What could possibly go wrong?

I imagine there are more whites than blacks at these protests

 

[Aberblue]

I imagine there are more whites than blacks at these protests

Calling in the army? Surely you're not serious?

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

Has one in Warrington too lol

Warrington seems to have a strange fascination with Cromwell for some reason, based on the story that he lodged overnight, before or after the Battle of Warrington during the English Civil War, in a house in the town. He isn't historically very popular in the whole of the country so I can't understand why there are statues of him.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I imagine there are more whites than blacks at these protests

Your imagination seems to do plenty of heavy lifting going by your posts mate.

 

[Lanolin]

...yes?

Like anything really isn't it?

So if it had been a particularly pleasing statue of colston you’d want it keeping then? Interesting take.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Who actually owns Edward Colston’s statue?

It seems there is some confusion

www.bristol247.com

This could have implications about the charging for those that pulled it down.

My favourite bit of the article 'Bristol24/7 understands that these organisations include the Society of Merchant Venturers, of which Colston was a member and until four years ago kept his fingernails and hair on display at their Clifton headquarters'

 

[Papa Shango]

So if it had been a particularly pleasing statue of colston you’d want it keeping then? Interesting take.

For the second time today...I am not the one removing statues!

If it had some form of artistic merit or cultural significance then yes. Like how there is a small bit of the Berlin wall still there.

The comparisons with world renowned monuments or structures is daft. They bring people in to those places, everyone (should) benefit from them being there both from an economic and a leisure side of it. The likes of the Pyramids and the Colosseum actually do mention who built them and what things were done to make it happen.

A statue can still be removed and put somewhere else, it does not have to be destroyed. You cant just move an ancient monument, where are we moving the Great Wall of China to? (actually Trump may be interested in buying it...)

 

[Lanolin]

For the second time today...I am not the one removing statues!

If it had some form of artistic merit or cultural significance then yes. Like how there is a small bit of the Berlin wall still there.

The comparisons with world renowned monuments or structures is daft. They bring people in to those places, everyone (should) benefit from them being there both from an economic and a leisure side of it. The likes of the Pyramids and the Colosseum actually do mention who built them and what things were done to make it happen.

A statue can still be removed and put somewhere else, it does not have to be destroyed. You cant just move an ancient monument, where are we moving the Great Wall of China to? (actually Trump may be interested in buying it...)

Hang on a minute. I said so the criteria for whether things stay up is aesthetics and you reply saying yes. And then when I seek to clarify that you say ‘for the second time today (not to me by the way) I’m not the one removing statues’?! How is that making any sense to you, because it isn’t making any to me?

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Warrington seems to have a strange fascination with Cromwell for some reason, based on the story that he lodged overnight, before or after the Battle of Warrington during the English Civil War, in a house in the town. He isn't historically very popular in the whole of the country so I can't understand why there are statues of him.

He is quite a significant figure in British history. So from that perspective I can understand it.

He was a right rotter, on the other hand.

 

[Tipp blue]

You can't really compare Gavrilo Princip to a slave trader though can you?

I never did, I simply asked without google how would know his name? The man who directly caused WW1 and by doing so indirectly caused WW2.

 

[Wizard]

Who actually owns Edward Colston’s statue?

It seems there is some confusion

www.bristol247.com

This could have implications about the charging for those that pulled it down.

My favourite bit of the article 'Bristol24/7 understands that these organisations include the Society of Merchant Venturers, of which Colston was a member and until four years ago kept his fingernails and hair on display at their Clifton headquarters'

Just read the thread by Prof Kate Williams which is linked in that article. Really interesting and worth having a read

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Sadly it isn't going to end at that - inevitable clashes between BLM & EDL/footie hooligans this weekend whilst talk on the grapevine of more statues being attacked.

Im not one for calling for the army/police but we are in unprecedented times with a killer virus knocking around whilst these idiots are treating it as a jolly up.

Get them on the streets as a visual deterrent and stop the nonsense before it escalates and we are stuck back in lockdown for another 3 months.

Have you seen what they have done to Queen Victoria's nipples? It is no wonder you are perturbed.