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[roydo]

Not aesthetics... vanity. A statue is usually commissioned by someone saying (usually paid for by the person or family of the person) I am/was important.

Not so sure myself. Did EFC send a bill to Mr & Mrs Dean??

 

[mill]

No, but people don't visit them to remember the tyrants behind them. I doubt many people could tell you who ordered the pyramids and coloseuum to be built. The statue is nothing but a vanity project and serves no other purpose.

I mean they were built by slaves (I’m not interested in semantics, they were slaves for all intents and purposes) for the purpose of glorifying the slaves owners.
I can totally see why the comparison has been made.
I do think it is different though as I’m not aware of a movement of Jewish people who find them offensive and a reminder of oppression. I could be wrong on that though.
if Jewish people do find them offensive then that’s another discussion.

 

[Billy Dean]

Comparing statues to buildings is completely pointless. Not the same thing at all.

 

[LostLegend]

What is different? Plenty of pyamids were built/housed former slave masters who died many years before it was finished.

Why is one visual representation of slavery acceptable, but another isn't? Convenience?

The Colosseum. Built by 60,000+ Jewish slaves, killed 400,000+ more. That's fine, sell tickets.

None of these structures are a direct celebration of an individual who profited from slavery.

These types of comparisons that people are throwing about are the lowest common denominator. You know what the argument is about, you know why certain people would like to see these statues removed, this type of ludicrous what-about-ism serves only to undermine your own argument.

 

[coollino]

None of these structures are a direct celebration of an individual who profited from slavery.

These types of comparisons that people are throwing about are the lowest common denominator. You know what the argument is about, you know why certain people would like to see these statues removed, this type of ludicrous what-about-ism serves only to undermine your own argument.

But what about the books!!

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

None of these structures are a direct celebration of an individual who profited from slavery.

These types of comparisons that people are throwing about are the lowest common denominator. You know what the argument is about, you know why certain people would like to see these statues removed, this type of ludicrous what-about-ism serves only to undermine your own argument.

Forcing slaves to do the work and not paying them, couldn't that be looked at as profiting.

 

[LostLegend]

Forcing slaves to do the work and not paying them, couldn't that be looked at as profiting?

The Pyramids are a tourist attraction. The whole area is a glorified museum at this point.
Auschwitz - now a memorial/museum a place of learning and so forth. (It was mentioned last night in another thread I believe)

I said earlier about relocating statues of know slave traders to museums.

No one is saying erase history and pretend it didn't happen, I'm saying use them as part of an educational tool.

I don't know what is so hard to grasp about this concept.

 

[Billy Dean]

I think BLM should get a flight over to Egypt and knock the pyramids down.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The Pyramids are a tourist attraction. The whole area is a glorified museum at this point.
Auschwitz - now a memorial/museum a place of learning and so forth. (It was mentioned last night in another thread I believe)

I said earlier about relocating statues of know slave traders to museums.

No one is saying erase history and pretend it didn't happen, I'm saying use them as part of an educational tool.

I don't know what is so hard to grasp about this concept.

Was listening to a black lad on the news the other day who made a good point. He was saying that he would rather all these statues remain where they are for him so every time he looked at them it was a reminder for him and for the nation of all those black slaves who died, and a reminder of our shameful past.

 

[coollino]

I think BLM should get a flight over to Egypt and knock the pyramids down.

They should take a Churchill statue there and bury it.

 

[LEONARD]

Are ya all happy now?

 

[trueblue84]

Are ya all happy now?

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Which one is the statue?

 

[edge]

On this removing statues if they get removed , In a few years nobody will know who these people where or how they earned there wealth .
Surely it would be better to leave them and educate people of there history,
keep them as a reminder rather than try and brush them of the pages of history.
Statues go so will the public memory of these people and there actions.

 

[LEONARD]

Which one is the statue?

One is a dead comedian, the other is the current British Prime Minister.

(according to the deluded Trotskyites who inhabit these threads)

 

[mill]

On this removing statues if they get removed , In a few years nobody will know who these people where or how they earned there wealth .
Surely it would be better to leave them and educate people of there history,
keep them as a reminder rather than try and brush them of the pages of history.
Statues go so will the public memory of these people and there actions.

If only there was some other way of archiving and evidencing history other than statues.