peteblue
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I feel sorry for big Joe, but it looks like Labour will split now. No matter how the election goes Corbyn will not resign so another party will have to be set up. McClusky has to be sidelined......
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I feel sorry for big Joe, but it looks like Labour will split now. No matter how the election goes Corbyn will not resign so another party will have to be set up. McClusky has to be sidelined......
Gouldy
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Do you really think Corbyn won't resign if he loses? I think he said he won't because he can't really answer in any other way to that question without further media turmoil..
peteblue
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No, I don't think he will. They will convince themselves that all is well, McClusky will support him and don't forget his 'massive mandate'.....
They are deluded ,dangerous and will not only hand the tories power but split the labour party, even if corbyn goes they will just parachute anothed of there ilke into the job.
Makes me laugh how they dress themselves up a the saviours of the working class while give the tories power on a plate for the second time, they learned nothing from the red Ed loss, everybody said he was a liability going into that election, one that they should have won but did they listen no ,they put up corbyn, again tories u turning , election scandal breaking there for the taking, but despite every man and his dog saying he isnt up to winning an election they stick to him.
He makes a great play of having convictions and honesty but knows and has known from the start that he is leading them to a loss and is helping them do it, any true man of conviction would have stepped aside for someone better able to get a result, he didnt , so is giving us a tory goverment and he knows it, everybody else does to.
When they lose the next one and they will, they have shown they dont learn or in reality give a toss about getting a working class voice into parliment and are doing harm to the party as an election force at the alter of the far left , which outside of the uni and metroplitian types has little support , only thing that gives it any sort of credabilty is people who always vote Labour carring on doing that and they think it gives them a mandate, when in reality they would vote a dog with a red rosette in rather than vote anything but labour.
As i have said voting Labour in the election but its with no conviction other than its my protest at what the goverment will get up to rather than any support for this labour party.
26% corporation tax 
Well thanks Jeremy that would work just great here in NI where we are competing with south and it's 12.5% rate for investment.
I absolutely hate that policy. It's 1970s all over. For a business with profits of say 1m (nothing major at all). Then they would pay 170k tax under current proposals of going down to 17%. Under these rules they'd pay 260k. That's 90k. Over a 50% rise in tax. And more importantly, that's 3 good wages down the drain. 3 people out of work. Why even set up in Britain when tax rate is less than half as much in Ireland? If that's the sort of government were being offered, then unashamedly I don't want it.
Well thanks Jeremy that would work just great here in NI where we are competing with south and it's 12.5% rate for investment.
I absolutely hate that policy. It's 1970s all over. For a business with profits of say 1m (nothing major at all). Then they would pay 170k tax under current proposals of going down to 17%. Under these rules they'd pay 260k. That's 90k. Over a 50% rise in tax. And more importantly, that's 3 good wages down the drain. 3 people out of work. Why even set up in Britain when tax rate is less than half as much in Ireland? If that's the sort of government were being offered, then unashamedly I don't want it.
Gouldy
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26% corporation tax
Well thanks Jeremy that would work just great here in NI where we are competing with south and it's 12.5% rate for investment.
I absolutely hate that policy. It's 1970s all over. For a business with profits of say 1m (nothing major at all). Then they would pay 170k tax under current proposals of going down to 17%. Under these rules they'd pay 260k. That's 90k. Over a 50% rise in tax. And more importantly, that's 3 good wages down the drain. 3 people out of work. Why even set up in Britain when tax rate is less than half as much in Ireland? If that's the sort of government were being offered, then unashamedly I don't want it.
"But cutting taxes won’t necessarily jumpstart Britain’s economy, said Helen Miller, the associate director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, in London. The British economy is performing tepidly both because of the Brexit vote and because consumers aren’t buying as much as they used to; cutting corporate taxes won’t mean that consumers will shop more. And the danger of depending on a low tax rate to attract companies is that another country could make its tax rate even lower, thus erasing any advantage. After all, the UK was losing out to Ireland, and now Ireland is losing some business to the UK. According to the ESRI report, when the UK lowers its tax rate one percent, the probability of Ireland being chosen as a location for new foreign-investment projects from non-EU companies fell by 4.3 percent. “You can be special and lure in companies as long as you’re the only one in town doing that game,” Miller said"
(https://www.theatlantic.com/busines...ate-tax-rates-really-grow-the-economy/504845/)
26% corporation tax
Well thanks Jeremy that would work just great here in NI where we are competing with south and it's 12.5% rate for investment.
I absolutely hate that policy. It's 1970s all over. For a business with profits of say 1m (nothing major at all). Then they would pay 170k tax under current proposals of going down to 17%. Under these rules they'd pay 260k. That's 90k. Over a 50% rise in tax. And more importantly, that's 3 good wages down the drain. 3 people out of work. Why even set up in Britain when tax rate is less than half as much in Ireland? If that's the sort of government were being offered, then unashamedly I don't want it.
Whilst at the same time probably having to pay tariffs to trade with Europe. It seems like a politically motivated business bashing rather than anything that's been thought through.
Mrk
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26% corporation tax
Well thanks Jeremy that would work just great here in NI where we are competing with south and it's 12.5% rate for investment.
I absolutely hate that policy. It's 1970s all over. For a business with profits of say 1m (nothing major at all). Then they would pay 170k tax under current proposals of going down to 17%. Under these rules they'd pay 260k. That's 90k. Over a 50% rise in tax. And more importantly, that's 3 good wages down the drain. 3 people out of work. Why even set up in Britain when tax rate is less than half as much in Ireland? If that's the sort of government were being offered, then unashamedly I don't want it.
It's virtue signalling at its very worst.
26% v 12.5%
That's a massive difference. I work in the tax industry and I'd be almost certain than almost every business in NI will go south of the border. Every big UK company will restructure and set up their main trading company in Ireland. For some companies, this will hit them for tens of millions of tax, so they will get round it. Punishing business is what makes me not want to support labour. Businessmen and entrepreneurs are not evil. They fund our livelihoods.
tsubaki
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Corbyn will get the blame for this, but I am not sure how true it is - after all, he hasn't been able to parachute his aides / supporters into any other safe seat or even get them past the NEC selection, so I fail to see how he managed it on this occasion.
So if anyone bears responsibility for this (and lets not pretend that Anderson is the perfect candidate he claims he is, and its his supporters that seem to be the most vocal about the outrage of this "stitch up") then its is probably Tom Watson - who after all has been able to get his people into safe seats, who has a clear interest in getting McCluskey on-side after the election, and who presumably has zero interest in getting a potential rival like Anderson into a position of national prominence.
orly
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Oh come on, this is Dave in the Everton forum levels of game here surely to God
ashwuk76
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Maybe you have uncovered a Dave multi my Friend lol
Supporting the removal of tuition fees is actually hugely regressive. Currently students pay back their loan, but only once they are earning a high wage as a result of their degree. If we scrap them then the graduates would pay back nothing extra regardless of how wealthy they become with aid of a degree.
I've got all that debt but don't earn enough yet to pay anything back. But if/when I do earn over the threshold then I feel it's right I start paying back as lots don't have the privilege of going to university. Why should hard working people who didn't go pay for my privilege?
Free at point of use, but you pay back when you've clearly benefitted financially from your education. IMO this is as close to fair as we'll get. So much myth and bollocks said around this issue tho.
I've got all that debt but don't earn enough yet to pay anything back. But if/when I do earn over the threshold then I feel it's right I start paying back as lots don't have the privilege of going to university. Why should hard working people who didn't go pay for my privilege?
Free at point of use, but you pay back when you've clearly benefitted financially from your education. IMO this is as close to fair as we'll get. So much myth and bollocks said around this issue tho.
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