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[Kenshin]

I personally back Corbyn as a leader. I think he approaches from a different angle and speaks for the people rather than for the posh privileged politicians you see normally.

i think maybe that is why there is such a negative reaction to him, he represents and seems like he is one of the more common people in the country and the media are driven to get of that and replace it with another posh candidate for the status quo.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I can't believe any true Labour supporter would really want Corbyn out. I disagree with many of his principles but unlike the Blairites he actually has some principles. We need a true Labour Party and a real Conservative party once again in this country because what we have right now is two social club's for career politicians who have never done a real days work in their life and have nothing but contempt for the people who elect them. The only way both Labour and the Conservatives will learn to follow the will of the electorate will be if we start voting for smaller parties on mass. Our political overlords need reminding that they supposed to serve the people as a public servant not rule over us as our lords and masters from their Ivory Tower.

 

[Joey66]

I'd rather the ordinary man see the wealth than the bankers. Only a twisted face Tory would have a problem with the working man doing well for himself.

I know things he got up to close to my heart - the closing of the victorian Botanic gardens in Calderstones Park was one of them a creature who should crawl back under the rock he emerged from as a deputy leader in Liverpool council sending redundancy notices out in taxis - ruined Labour's chances of election success , and we got Thatcher!

 

[Tubey]

I personally back Corbyn as a leader. I think he approaches from a different angle and speaks for the people rather than for the posh privileged politicians you see normally.

i think maybe that is why there is such a negative reaction to him, he represents and seems like he is one of the more common people in the country and the media are driven to get of that and replace it with another posh candidate for the status quo.

I'm from the second most deprived area in Britain and I am instinctively Labour.

Corbyn does not represent me or anyone I know in any way, shape or form. From my experience, people prefer common sense realism to the student club idealist politics he stands for.

He would be trounced in an election, and not because of any media agenda; it's because people simply won't vote for him.

 

[Kylito]

this is gonna sound a bit silly, but...if farron didnt look so odd and weak(he literally looks a bit ill) then i think they would do alot better

lib dems with ashdown as leader for example would clean up

sad times we live in...

Norman Lamb would've been my choice for the Lib Dems. I can't be doing with Farron's god-squad side to him either.

 

[Kylito]

Regarding Corbyn - I voted him in as leader because I wanted an actual left wing politician as labour leader. He hasn't done anything to show he can win an election in the slightest, and if anything has made Labour's chances even worse. He's just been so... feeble.

This is how you win over the electorate:

- Make Dan Jarvis leader.

- Have Dan Jarvis shout "I WAS A SOLDIER ONCE"

- Win the election. That's all it takes. UKIP's working class support is annihilated in one sentence and floods back to labour.

 

[Blue 1]

I am a party member and I voted for Corbyn, mainly because all of the other candidates were so utterly godawful and he was offering something different, but he has proven himself incapable of leading the party, sadly. Not entirely his fault, the behaviour of the right wing of the party has been unconscionable, but he keeps scoring own goals and is not taking full advantage of the many, many open goals being presented to him by the government. I like him, and I think he's a good guy, but my gut feeling at the moment is that Labour could be looking at double figures of seats at the next election, so bad are things at the moment. If you think the media BS is bad now, wait until election time. Some of his ideas are fine, but I think that somebody younger, better at communicating and without his past is needed before the next election. I would like to see Angela Rayner as the next leader of the party, or possibly Clive Lewis, although I'm not sure he's got the right temperament.

 

[nsno-chris]

I can't stand Corbyn, some of his policies I agree with but the man is weak. Nobody knew Labours position in the Referendum, he's been anti-EU for years but didn't want to upset all the tree huggers who were protesting against democracy.

One person I cannot stand is Diane Abbott, she is one vile, ignorant, rude, self opinionated disgrace of a politician.

If these 2 are still in position come election time my vote will be going elsewhere.

 

[peteblue]

Labour will never win a GE with Corbyn and the MP's know it. Most sensible people know it, but those that want him in don't really want power, just a visible vehicle for protest. In one way I like Corbyn, he believes in something and tends to show principle to those beliefs, the problem being that very few share his beliefs and know that we would be a basket case after a couple of months.......Labour is finished for at least two more elections.......

 

[peteblue]

I can't stand Corbyn, some of his policies I agree with but the man is weak. Nobody knew Labours position in the Referendum, he's been anti-EU for years but didn't want to upset all the tree huggers who were protesting against democracy.

One person I cannot stand is Diane Abbott, she is one vile, ignorant, rude, self opinionated disgrace of a politician.

If these 2 are still in position come election time my vote will be going elsewhere.

In describing Abbott you forgot lying, two faced, self serving and buffoon......

 

[Tubey]

In describing Abbott you forgot lying, two faced, self serving and buffoon......

And you forgot to include the term racist too.

 

[tsubaki]

I am a party member and I voted for Corbyn, mainly because all of the other candidates were so utterly godawful and he was offering something different, but he has proven himself incapable of leading the party, sadly. Not entirely his fault, the behaviour of the right wing of the party has been unconscionable, but he keeps scoring own goals and is not taking full advantage of the many, many open goals being presented to him by the government. I like him, and I think he's a good guy, but my gut feeling at the moment is that Labour could be looking at double figures of seats at the next election, so bad are things at the moment. If you think the media BS is bad now, wait until election time. Some of his ideas are fine, but I think that somebody younger, better at communicating and without his past is needed before the next election. I would like to see Angela Rayner as the next leader of the party, or possibly Clive Lewis, although I'm not sure he's got the right temperament.

The problem is that, thanks to Blair, twenty years of his lot choosing candidates, and the rise of the professional political class generally the quality in the PLP is so laughably bad that there is not a viable candidate to be leader anywhere in the party. Even Dan Jarvis' much vaunted military experience evaporates into nothingness once you hear him speak.

Corbyn really is the most qualified one of them to be leader; at least he can point to doing something right and weakening the power of the centre to impose candidates is likely to improve the quality of Labour MPs further down the line.

 

[Joey66]

In describing Abbott you forgot lying, two faced, self serving and buffoon......

Please stop it you will give me a migrainelol

 

[peteblue]

The problem is that, thanks to Blair, twenty years of his lot choosing candidates, and the rise of the professional political class generally the quality in the PLP is so laughably bad that there is not a viable candidate to be leader anywhere in the party. Even Dan Jarvis' much vaunted military experience evaporates into nothingness once you hear him speak.

Corbyn really is the most qualified one of them to be leader; at least he can point to doing something right and weakening the power of the centre to impose candidates is likely to improve the quality of Labour MPs further down the line.

Even though he looks a chinless wonder, Hilary Benn is the only candidate imo...........

 

[neil999]

Regarding Corbyn - I voted him in as leader because I wanted an actual left wing politician as labour leader. He hasn't done anything to show he can win an election in the slightest, and if anything has made Labour's chances even worse. He's just been so... feeble.

This is how you win over the electorate:

- Make Dan Jarvis leader.

- Have Dan Jarvis shout "I WAS A SOLDIER ONCE"

- Win the election. That's all it takes. UKIP's working class support is annihilated in one sentence and floods back to labour.

spot on

im torn between him and starmer as next leader, but your right jarvis would be perfect for winning back the working class vote