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[Seanjd]

I some some on here are giving Farage WAY too much credit. Others were way more influential, Cameron included.

 

[JonS]

I some some on here are giving Farage WAY too much credit. Others were way more influential, Cameron included.

Obviously Cameron chose to have the referendum but I believe this was only under the pressure from Farages UKIP (and it really was Farages UKIP - without him it is near nothing) that he did this.

Without Farages irrepressible force and strength of personality expressed over a number of years I doubt the country would have voted for Brexit so yes, in my opinion he deserves his place in history

 

[peteblue]

It's almost like he's a Tory plant. Everything he's says or does pushes more people towards the conservatives, it's uncanny really......

 

[Seanjd]

Obviously Cameron chose to have the referendum but I believe this was only under the pressure from Farages UKIP (and it really was Farages UKIP - without him it is near nothing) that he did this.

Without Farages irrepressible force and strength of personality expressed over a number of years I doubt the country would have voted for Brexit so yes, in my opinion he deserves his place in history

There are loads of Europhiles in the Tory party. It was those who pushed Cameron to a referendum. Not Farage. Cameron knew he needed to please them to keep power.

 

[Tubey]

Excuse my slightly random ramblings. I may be talking about gravitas and place in history.

On that basis I think Corbyn gets middleweight for strength of character and largely admirable views and campaigning for justice over many years.

I stick to May being a lightweight. She has no depth that I can see and other than being PM when Brexit happened I cant see her having much place in history

May is a serving Prime Minister. By default she's more influential than Corbyn, who will - if he's lucky - be akin to Neil Kinnock, but will probably go down in history for solely being the worst Labour leader in its' history as a party, surpassing Kinnock and even Foot.

 

[orly]

I have wonderful Friends on the CFP committee and we achieve a lot in the wonderful society that is GrandOldTeam.com

Right now, one of the things we are drawing attention to is that @Chunky Frankfurter is previously banned poster @butters and @Nil Satis Niasse Optimum . We feel this is a hot issue and something our support is passionate about.

If Labour were as effective as us, it's be a bigger margin win than 97

Another win for the Centre Frandly Party

 

[edge]

Obviously Cameron chose to have the referendum but I believe this was only under the pressure from Farages UKIP (and it really was Farages UKIP - without him it is near nothing) that he did this.

Without Farages irrepressible force and strength of personality expressed over a number of years I doubt the country would have voted for Brexit so yes, in my opinion he deserves his place in history

Should be given a knighthood.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Obviously Cameron chose to have the referendum but I believe this was only under the pressure from Farages UKIP (and it really was Farages UKIP - without him it is near nothing) that he did this.

Without Farages irrepressible force and strength of personality expressed over a number of years I doubt the country would have voted for Brexit so yes, in my opinion he deserves his place in history

I don't agree with this either. I think a lot more people may have listened to the brexit arguments if it wasn't associated with a smarmy, racist bigot, standing in front of ridiculous posters. The notion that he led the campaign to leave the eu is a fallacy in my opinion. The guys an opportunistic bellend

 

[The binman chronicles]

May is a serving Prime Minister. By default she's more influential than Corbyn, who will - if he's lucky - be akin to Neil Kinnock, but will probably go down in history for solely being the worst Labour leader in its' history as a party, surpassing Kinnock and even Foot.

Corbyn is going to make Kinnock look like Tony Blair by the time the results come in. Least he had a shout of winning...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Should be given a knighthood.

 

[edge]

Sir Nigel has a ring to it make him envoy to the USA he would go down well over there.

 

[JonS]

Should be given a knighthood.

Sir Nigel has a ring to it make him envoy to the USA he would go down well over there.

Lots of worse people have been given knighthoods IMO.

Rather than envoy to the US I'd love him at the front of the Brexit negotiations with Davis et al.

They'd get no nonesense past him lol

 

[peteblue]

Lots of worse people have been given knighthoods IMO.

Rather than envoy to the US I'd love him at the front of the Brexit negotiations with Davis et al.

They'd get no nonesense past him lol

Indeed, Lord Mandelson spent his political career amassing money and cushy jobs in the EU. Even now he takes the EU side before the UK. Farage, like him or loath him, has helped to give the UK the opportunity to break free from this club and is unashamedly pro UK......

 

[neil999]

May is a serving Prime Minister. By default she's more influential than Corbyn, who will - if he's lucky - be akin to Neil Kinnock, but will probably go down in history for solely being the worst Labour leader in its' history as a party, surpassing Kinnock and even Foot.

Kinnock was/is a much better orator than Corbyn..

 

[Tubey]

Lots of worse people have been given knighthoods IMO.

Rather than envoy to the US I'd love him at the front of the Brexit negotiations with Davis et al.

They'd get no nonesense past him lol

I can't think of many people less deserving of a knighthood than Nigel Farage. That's a shocking shout.