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[JonS]

Excuse my slightly random ramblings. I may be talking about gravitas and place in history.

On that basis I think Corbyn gets middleweight for strength of character and largely admirable views and campaigning for justice over many years.

I stick to May being a lightweight. She has no depth that I can see and other than being PM when Brexit happened I cant see her having much place in history

 

[edge]

...so you, @neil999 and I have highlighted 3 bright young Labour MPs in Lisa Nandy, Stella Creasy and Louise Haigh but I fear the Momentum Corbynists have known exactly what will happen in this election and have planned another 5 years of similar politics with somebody like Angela Raynor, one of their own. Such a shame.

That's what i am worried about
,Labour get hammered and they put another loser up, i honestly think there will be a new party formed.

 

[roydo]

Excuse my slightly random ramblings. I may be talking about gravitas and place in history.

On that basis I think Corbyn gets middleweight for strength of character and largely admirable views and campaigning for justice over many years.

I stick to May being a lightweight. She has no depth that I can see and other than being PM when Brexit happened I cant see her having much place in history

Her Wiki will have her as PM, so will Google.

Neither Corbyn nor Farage will. But I do accept the fact that one has played a pivitol role in an historic decision, and history will record that fact.

 

[edge]

Her Wiki will have her as PM, so will Google.

Neither Corbyn nor Farage will. But I do accept the fact that one has played a pivitol role in an historic decision, and history will record that fact.

Love him or hate him he will go down in history as one of the biggest figure s in politics for this time in history.
Corbyn looking like getting remembered as the political aquivelent of Bon Accord recalled only for the scale of the defeat

 

[Eggs]

That's what i am worried about
,Labour get hammered and they put another loser up, i honestly think there will be a new party formed.

..it appears to be working in France.

 

[roydo]

Love him or hate him he will go down in history as one of the biggest figure s in politics for this time on history.
Corbyn looking like getting remembered as the political aquivelent of Bon Accord recalled only for the scale of the defeat

Think thats over doing it a bit. He was never an MP, but he will be recognised as the person who poked the wasp nest.

Like you say, love him or loath him, he started the car, no doubt.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Excuse my slightly random ramblings. I may be talking about gravitas and place in history.

On that basis I think Corbyn gets middleweight for strength of character and largely admirable views and campaigning for justice over many years.

I stick to May being a lightweight. She has no depth that I can see and other than being PM when Brexit happened I cant see her having much place in history

Fair point. I agree with you about May. I'm not sure Corbyn will be remembered for his admirable views and campaigning in the history books as much as his disastrous tenure as Labour leader - I might be wrong though.

Btw, surely if Farage is a heavyweight (loathe the views but acknowledge his impact/influence), then you can't call Trump a lightweight?

 

[edge]

..it appears to be working in France.

Can't see a way for Labour to turn the party around , so that's the way i see it going.

 

[edge]

Think thats over doing it a bit. He was never an MP, but he will be recognised as the person who poked the wasp nest.

Like you say, love him or loath him, he started the car, no doubt.

He isnt up against much really is he , call me Dave, red ed, ect

 

[Eggs]

Can't see a way for Labour to turn the party around , so that's the way i see it going.

...the only chance I can see is beyond 2022. One party politics under this government is not what the country needs.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I think because of the way the political system is set up in France (elect your leader and then MP's), that's easier to do. Here, it would take much, much longer to create a new political party and attract good MP's to stand in enough seats to have a chance at anything.

Very true, but it looks like we are now getting into personality politics so it may not be too long before we see more coalition governments and perhaps a breakdown of the traditional 3 party stranglehold.

 

[roydo]

He isnt up against much really is he , call me Dave, red ed, ect

He hasnt actaully been "up" against anyone. Other that Ian Hislop on HIGNFY.

 

[edge]

...the only chance I can see is beyond 2022. One party politics under this government is not what the country needs.

Agree mate , this lot are getting a free run at government .

 

[JonS]

@bring the ghost on I see Corbyn as a kind of mini, slightly lesser Tony Benn, but yes agree he will probably be remembered for the size of his (impending) defeat...

I've downgraded Farage to middleweight after Bruces interference.

Trump gets something for actually getting elected but I cant see any gravitas in him (he's an idiot basically)

Farage at least has a hint of Churchill or Thatcher about him and Id rather him be in charge of us in the event of a war than I would our other party leaders...

 

[The binman chronicles]

Think thats over doing it a bit. He was never an MP, but he will be recognised as the person who poked the wasp nest.

Like you say, love him or loath him, he started the car, no doubt.

I believe Farage was just a fly in the ointment, we could have gone his whole lifetime without a vote to exit the EU, we had a vote due to the weakness of David Cameron to keep the euro sceptics in the Tory party at bay. That and the fact he underestimated the danger of a Yes vote.

Farage can take some credit for his campaign playing on the fears of the public though.