davek
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Those people are thick and therefore dont count.
It was Brexit, not Corbyn. JUSS GET BREGSIT DUN!
Once that's out the way it reverts to default setting, doesn;t matter who's in charge.
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Those people are thick and therefore dont count.
It was Brexit, not Corbyn. JUSS GET BREGSIT DUN!
Once that's out the way it reverts to default setting, doesn;t matter who's in charge.
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Nice work lol
BigMick
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I presume that's Corbyn you're referring to. There, I'm afraid, we have to part company, Dave.
davek
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It's true. Did you watch that video?
davek
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I dont see why not. Corbyn threatened to upset the apple cart and they reacted with fury.
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davek
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Watch it and tell me you think those people should be allowed to vote.Yeah, OK Dave
Appalled at the suspension of Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, who I have met several times and is a tireless Jewish campaigner for Palestinian rights.
This isn't fighting antisemitism. It's using it to silence people who advocate for Palestine.
This isn't fighting antisemitism. It's using it to silence people who advocate for Palestine.
In fairness, whatever we think of such groups as soon as Brexit was done they were always going to go back to Labour and leave the Tories, They got what they wanted. That has absolutely nothing to do with Keir Starmer.
I mean Starmer, who is far more pro remain than Corbyn is not going to be the reason they are coming back. If they start winning seats in the south, fair enough, Starmer can take some credit. But anyone wins those seats back for Labour, and once they do we are back in the situation we have been for about 30 years, where the tories are unable to win a proper majority.
Become such a smear against Labour and they don’t know how to react. Corbyn was the same. They seem to freak out at any suggestion.
Doesn’t help with idiots like Livingstone about piping up with total nonsense.
Oh they do count, in fact thick or not they...or at least all their votes, were most of definately counted
BigMick
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I followed Corbyn's career for many years, long before he became leader. Someone who attended numerous meetings with him in London once told me there were two things to bear in mind about him:
1. He has a huge ego.
2. He hates to be outflanked on the left, by friend or foe.
Nothing unusual in the first one amongst politicians, at least most of the ones I've met, but add the two together and that's the prism though which I've always viewed Corbyn's various actions and prognostications, rightly or wrongly. I believe it was a tragedy that we were saddled with him as leader at the only time in my lifetime that there was a genuine chance of a left wing Labour government. I understand he's a very good constituency MP - in my view he should have stayed as one.
I know and wouldn't expect you or any of his many supporters to change your minds about him - I once held Tony Benn, a much greater politician/leader/campaigner/teacher/person, in similar esteem and would argue with the same passion that you show in defence of him.
Benn, though, had scant chance of becoming Prime Minister, even if he'd been Labour leader: peak period Thatcher stood in the way - almost unbeatable at the time. Corbyn in contrast had the wretched Mrs May and a Conservative Party that ran the worst campaign in political history to beat: have you ever known any party having to repudiate its own manifesto just two days after releasing it to great fanfare? And then he allowed himself to be suckered into agreeing to a 'Brexit' election, thus saddling us with this hapless and incompetent government for five years! A complete failure of leadership and judgement.
Incidentally, did you ever see the press/tv coverage Benn had to deal with? And he wasn't even party leader! Kinnock, too, had to put up with horrendous treatment by the media, so nothing unique in that to Corbyn.
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If I use the barometer "Corbyn Millband Blair" we are still currently left of Miliband on policy, if we get near "and", ill get my metaphorical pitchfork out and pull my monies, both union affiliation and labour membership.
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That's only true because Starmer hasn't made policy yet. We exist with Corbyn era policy, as it stands.
But look at what's happening on issues over party unity (a promise broken); abstaining on the spy cops bill; standing aside and failing to oppose deportations. Doesn't leave you with the impression that the policies (when he finally speaks up to make his known) will be a continuation of the immediate past, does it?
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