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[davek]

Isn't this the organisation that was also scathing in its criticism of the government's hostile immigration policy and its impact on the Windrush generation?

They obviously have people who aren't applying their judgements to their own person social media accounts...and it's via their assessment of the social media accounts of others they've held out to dry many LP members.

Madness that the LP agreed to let that load of two faced neo-liberals take control of their discipline issues.

Another reason to jib Labour and start a proper socialist alternative.

 

[davek]

Starmer's financial backer:





I wonder what "Sir" Keir will do?

 

[peteblue]

Do you usually just not vote if an upper class xenophobe isn’t standing in your constituency then? Or hold your nose and vote for whoever’s most likely to cut benefits?

I‘ve never even seen or heard from either a Labour or LibDem candidate. Nothing. The Tory candidate gets around and seems to talk sense, he even turned up at the funeral of a mate of mine and attended his wake. Who would you have voted for....

 

[dead_soft]

I‘ve never even seen or heard from either a Labour or LibDem candidate. Nothing. The Tory candidate gets around and seems to talk sense, he even turned up at the funeral of a mate of mine and attended his wake. Who would you have voted for....

Certainly not the guy who crashes funerals to get free booze at the ceremony after

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

They obviously have people who aren't applying their judgements to their own person social media accounts...and it's via their assessment of the social media accounts of others they've held out to dry many LP members.

Madness that the LP agreed to let that load of two faced neo-liberals take control of their discipline issues.

Another reason to jib Labour and start a proper socialist alternative.

Dave, your head has fallen off, mate.

 

[davek]

Shot across the bow from the unions...

At a meeting with Keir Starmer (Monday 23rd November) unions expressed concerns at the situation regarding Jeremy Corbyn and called for the Labour whip to be restored to him.

In the face of millions losing their jobs and a disgraceful imposition by the government of a public sector pay freeze, we have been distracted by internal wrangling, which is causing deep division in our party and will not be understood or forgiven by the British public.

We urge all parties to resolve this matter quickly.

Dave Ward – CWU
Matt Wrack – FBU
Mick Whelan – ASLEF
Manuel Cortes – TSSA
Ian Hodson – BFAWU
Sarah Woolley – BFAWU
Chris Kitchen – NUM
Roy Rickhuss – Community
Len McCluskey – Unite

 

[davek]

Dave, your head has fallen off, mate.

Why? For expecting a body set up to sit in judgement of others to have a clean pair of hands itself?

 

[BigMick]

Shot across the bow from the unions...

At a meeting with Keir Starmer (Monday 23rd November) unions expressed concerns at the situation regarding Jeremy Corbyn and called for the Labour whip to be restored to him.

In the face of millions losing their jobs and a disgraceful imposition by the government of a public sector pay freeze, we have been distracted by internal wrangling, which is causing deep division in our party and will not be understood or forgiven by the British public.

We urge all parties to resolve this matter quickly.

Dave Ward – CWU
Matt Wrack – FBU
Mick Whelan – ASLEF
Manuel Cortes – TSSA
Ian Hodson – BFAWU
Sarah Woolley – BFAWU
Chris Kitchen – NUM
Roy Rickhuss – Community
Len McCluskey – Unite

I think it will be, depending on the outcome.

Abstaining on the most important issues of the day is another matter.

 

[davek]

I think it will be, depending on the outcome.

Abstaining on the most important issues of the day is another matter.

Starmer's policy seems to be to slip into No10 by the back door; not revealing his character or philosophy and offending no one. It cant be done.

 

[BigMick]

Starmer's policy seems to be to slip into No10 by the back door; not revealing his character or philosophy and offending no one. It cant be done.

That's how he and Rayner won the elections for leader - I watched all the 'debates' and those two said as little as possible, committing themselves to nothing but the safest positions.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Why? For expecting a body set up to sit in judgement of others to have a clean pair of hands itself?

No mate, just the stuff you are posting.

 

[tsubaki]

Starmer's policy seems to be to slip into No10 by the back door; not revealing his character or philosophy and offending no one. It cant be done.

It can be, but it needs a compliant, cowed or bought-off press.

Getting them to do that is a tough, but not impossible, task now and of course that will get tougher once the *checks notes* underrepresentation of right wing viewpoints is dealt with by them having two “news” channels as well as most of the papers, most of talk radio, most of the commentators and the solid links with the government.

 

[davek]

It can be, but it needs a compliant, cowed or bought-off press.

Getting them to do that is a tough, but not impossible, task now and of course that will get tougher once the *checks notes* underrepresentation of right wing viewpoints is dealt with by them having two “news” channels as well as most of the papers, most of talk radio, most of the commentators and the solid links with the government.

Every now and then it's required (after extended periods of Tory corruption) that the LP take power - in order to give the impression that we live in a democracy.

Before that happens the LP will need to have a leadership whom those really in charge - capital - can do business with. It's their job, during that period of temporary transmission of power from the Tories, to install a LP leadership who adopt neo-liberal policies domestically and an Atlanticist foreign policy. That's where we are headed back under Starmer, and - outside the rabid elements of the media (the Mail and Express) - he'll get their backing. Expect a bellwether like the S*n, for example, to swing back in behind Labour before the next election.

Starmer's part of the bargain is to hammer the left inside Labour and tear up existing LP policy commitments on the nationalisation of certain industries, to end their plans to scrap various 'reforms' (market-driven) to the economy (though they will be allowed to talk up a 'green economy'...a watered down version of the vision as previously adopted), to soft pedal on extending trade union rights, roll back commitments to freeze retirement age for state pensions, commit to a tweaked universal credit, ditch commitments to end charitable status for rich independent schools etc etc.

 

[Aberblue]

Every now and then it's required (after extended periods of Tory corruption) that the LP take power - in order to give the impression that we live in a democracy.

Before that happens the LP will need to have a leadership whom those really in charge - capital - can do business with. It's their job, during that period of temporary transmission of power from the Tories, to install a LP leadership who adopt neo-liberal policies domestically and an Atlanticist foreign policy. That's where we are headed back under Starmer, and - outside the rabid elements of the media (the Mail and Express) - he'll get their backing. Expect a bellwether like the S*n, for example, to swing back in behind Labour before the next election.

Starmer's part of the bargain is to hammer the left inside Labour and tear up existing LP policy commitments on the nationalisation of certain industries, to end their plans to scrap various 'reforms' (market-driven) to the economy (though they will be allowed to talk up a 'green economy'...a watered down version of the vision as previously adopted), to soft pedal on extending trade union rights, roll back commitments to freeze retirement age for state pensions, commit to a tweaked universal credit, ditch commitments to end charitable status for rich independent schools etc etc.

I see; no wonder you back him so strongly.

 

[BigMick]

Every now and then it's required (after extended periods of Tory corruption) that the LP take power - in order to give the impression that we live in a democracy.

Before that happens the LP will need to have a leadership whom those really in charge - capital - can do business with. It's their job, during that period of temporary transmission of power from the Tories, to install a LP leadership who adopt neo-liberal policies domestically and an Atlanticist foreign policy. That's where we are headed back under Starmer, and - outside the rabid elements of the media (the Mail and Express) - he'll get their backing. Expect a bellwether like the S*n, for example, to swing back in behind Labour before the next election.

Starmer's part of the bargain is to hammer the left inside Labour and tear up existing LP policy commitments on the nationalisation of certain industries, to end their plans to scrap various 'reforms' (market-driven) to the economy (though they will be allowed to talk up a 'green economy'...a watered down version of the vision as previously adopted), to soft pedal on extending trade union rights, roll back commitments to freeze retirement age for state pensions, commit to a tweaked universal credit, ditch commitments to end charitable status for rich independent schools etc etc.

If only I'd known this in the 80s and early 90s I wouldn't have wasted countless hours trudging through rain-soaked streets campaigning for Labour!