davek
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Certainly. The LP are a socialist party and JVL are the only authentic representation of socialist thought amongst all affiliated Jewish groups.
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davek
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Needs to be suspended. She's flouting the EHRC advice.
Starmer needs to act. Suspend her and see she has to face the music...a woman who should never still be in the party for her physical assault on the party leader a few years ago. A thug (she also brough a huge mob into a LP constituency meeting to disrupted and intimidate party members IIRC) and a sectarian. Needs suspending then expelling. If the torturer's mate had any balls he'd do it too.
davek
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Commenting on his readmission, Corbyn said: “I am pleased to have been reinstated in the Labour Party and would like to thank party members, trade unionists and all who have offered solidarity. Our movement must now come together to oppose and defeat this deeply damaging Conservative government.”
Indeed.
Indeed.
Dan Tanner
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Wow, just Wow....
I think this is possibly on the whole one of the most sensible posts I have ever read in the 12+ years I've been on this site.
This isn't arguing for the sake of arguing, or making random comments to Stoke a fire. This is basic common sense and I'd love to believe it couid be a way forward for Labour, sadly I know too many people who are so entrenched in their views in the party they couldn't or wouldn't accept this brilliant common sense stance.
Kudos, I'd give you rep but alas its the current affairs forum and is not permitted. Still great post and thanks for such a well thought out post.
davek
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Wow just wow for your post too mate...but for a different reason.
How you could offer congratulations to @BlueToff s post is mystifying; it's a caricature of what Corbyn's period in charge achieved or failed to achieve and accepts without any thought the mostly bogus AS charges against the LP.
davek
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Decent overview here of what an absolute mess Starmer has landed himself in.
www.newstatesman.com
Jeremy Corbyn has been issued with a formal warning by Labour and has had his suspension lifted by the party’s ruling National Executive Committee, 19 days after he was suspended due to his response to the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s report, in a row that provides an object lesson of the multiple flaws in Labour’s complaints processes and its handling of antisemitism complaints
Corbyn’s suspension caused uproar among his supporters. The offence of “bringing the party into disrepute” – a category of offence that is deliberately designed to be so broad that almost any behaviour can be said to fall into it – is designed to give a party leadership with a reliable majority on the NEC and its subcommittees a blank cheque for expulsions. But while Keir Starmer does have a reliable majority on the NEC as a whole, he does not have a reliable majority in its various subcommittees As a result, Corbyn has been issued with a warning – but that warning of course looks like a let-off because it coincides with the lifting of his suspension as a party member.
Corbyn’s readmittance has triggered upset and anger among many British Jews. The Jewish Labour Movement, the largest organisation of Jewish Labour members, described a statement issued by the former Labour leader today as “insincere and totally inadequate”, and warned that today’s decision will “embolden” those who agreed with his “grossly offensive” remarks 19 days ago. The Board of Deputies, the Jewish community’s elected communal body, described Corbyn’s readmittance as a “retrograde step” in a joint statement with the Jewish Leadership Council, an umbrella body of various communal organisations.
The decision will do nothing to repair relations with Britain’s Jewish community, 94 per cent of which did not vote Labour in 2019, and 84 per cent of whom believed Corbyn to be a specific threat to British Jews according to the Campaign Against Antisemitism’s yearly study of British Jewish concerns about antisemitism and antisemitic attitudes in the wider British community.
For Starmer it is an unmitigated disaster: neither he, nor his general secretary David Evans are trusted by the party’s Corbynite wing in part as a result of the original suspension, but having been outplayed in the party’s internal structures and institutions he has not won any new allies either.
The situation could have been avoided had Evans opted to impose a moratorium on suspensions under the old rules until the new EHRC-approved process is in place, a route I described the morningthe EHRC report was published.
The reality is that not only is Starmer’s struggle to tackle the problem of Labour antisemitism not over, this specific row has not been resolved either. The EHRC’s statutory powers mean that rule changes will be made and a roster of complaints by the Campaign Against Antisemitism and others against Corbyn and 13 other sitting Labour MPs will once again go through the party’s processes.
What is more revealing is not today’s NEC finding. We knew already that Labour’s internal processes were unfit for purpose and ripe for factional interference. And it is hard to see how, even had the NEC opted for a tougher penalty against Corbyn, the matter would not ultimately have been settled by the new independent process. What is perhaps more significant are the tactical missteps of Evans – and the blow that has been dealt to the man who chose him to be general secretary: Keir Starmer.
Jeremy Corbyn’s readmittance is a blow to Keir Starmer – and to his allies’ judgement
The Labour leader and his general secretary have alienated the Corbynite wing without winning any new allies.
www.newstatesman.com
Jeremy Corbyn’s readmittance is a blow to Keir Starmer – and to his allies’ judgement
The Labour leader and his general secretary have alienated the Corbynite wing without winning any new allies.Jeremy Corbyn has been issued with a formal warning by Labour and has had his suspension lifted by the party’s ruling National Executive Committee, 19 days after he was suspended due to his response to the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s report, in a row that provides an object lesson of the multiple flaws in Labour’s complaints processes and its handling of antisemitism complaints
Corbyn’s suspension caused uproar among his supporters. The offence of “bringing the party into disrepute” – a category of offence that is deliberately designed to be so broad that almost any behaviour can be said to fall into it – is designed to give a party leadership with a reliable majority on the NEC and its subcommittees a blank cheque for expulsions. But while Keir Starmer does have a reliable majority on the NEC as a whole, he does not have a reliable majority in its various subcommittees As a result, Corbyn has been issued with a warning – but that warning of course looks like a let-off because it coincides with the lifting of his suspension as a party member.
Corbyn’s readmittance has triggered upset and anger among many British Jews. The Jewish Labour Movement, the largest organisation of Jewish Labour members, described a statement issued by the former Labour leader today as “insincere and totally inadequate”, and warned that today’s decision will “embolden” those who agreed with his “grossly offensive” remarks 19 days ago. The Board of Deputies, the Jewish community’s elected communal body, described Corbyn’s readmittance as a “retrograde step” in a joint statement with the Jewish Leadership Council, an umbrella body of various communal organisations.
The decision will do nothing to repair relations with Britain’s Jewish community, 94 per cent of which did not vote Labour in 2019, and 84 per cent of whom believed Corbyn to be a specific threat to British Jews according to the Campaign Against Antisemitism’s yearly study of British Jewish concerns about antisemitism and antisemitic attitudes in the wider British community.
For Starmer it is an unmitigated disaster: neither he, nor his general secretary David Evans are trusted by the party’s Corbynite wing in part as a result of the original suspension, but having been outplayed in the party’s internal structures and institutions he has not won any new allies either.
The situation could have been avoided had Evans opted to impose a moratorium on suspensions under the old rules until the new EHRC-approved process is in place, a route I described the morningthe EHRC report was published.
The reality is that not only is Starmer’s struggle to tackle the problem of Labour antisemitism not over, this specific row has not been resolved either. The EHRC’s statutory powers mean that rule changes will be made and a roster of complaints by the Campaign Against Antisemitism and others against Corbyn and 13 other sitting Labour MPs will once again go through the party’s processes.
What is more revealing is not today’s NEC finding. We knew already that Labour’s internal processes were unfit for purpose and ripe for factional interference. And it is hard to see how, even had the NEC opted for a tougher penalty against Corbyn, the matter would not ultimately have been settled by the new independent process. What is perhaps more significant are the tactical missteps of Evans – and the blow that has been dealt to the man who chose him to be general secretary: Keir Starmer.
ForeverBlue92
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I see Starmer has rolled over for the fanatics in Momentum.
Gone are the days of politicans with conviction - any leader who U turns at the slightest bit of pressure or criticism isn't the leader for me.
Oh well another 4 years of Tory rule and austerity cuts following the next general election coming our way as momentum are the Tory Trojan Horse mark my words.
Gone are the days of politicans with conviction - any leader who U turns at the slightest bit of pressure or criticism isn't the leader for me.
Oh well another 4 years of Tory rule and austerity cuts following the next general election coming our way as momentum are the Tory Trojan Horse mark my words.
Blues Harp
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still waiting........and btw I am not or ever have been a momentum member. What influence have they had in the Merseyside constituencies?
NilSatisOptimum
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Same here, and the recent NEC elections only encouraged my vote to be as left as possible. The Unison vote will be more difficult as the 3 of the contenders are distribute the wealth lefties.
I don't accept them but they also aren't bogus.
I have a labour supporting Jewish mate who was deeply hurt by the failures of the Corbyn administration so have asked his advice on this, as it's a subject I didn't know enough about at first.
He worked for a Jewish publication too, based in London, and many Jews in that area felt the same. I'm not Jewish, I don't know how they felt, but to say the accusations are completely bogus is downright daft.
I also like Corbyn, but the state the Labour party was in in the last election was shown by the fact they were completely smashed by an even more abysmal than normal Tory party - and I've voted Labour in every election I've been able to vote in.
I'm glad Corbyn is getting reinstated. He seems like a decent man. But the party fell to bits under him just like it did the others, and mainly because he never made his stance clear on a fair few issues.
davek
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ForeverBlue92
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Momentum have been butt hurt ever since Starmer became party leader.
They have wanted one of their patsies in charge ever since Corbyn stepped down and would rather see the Tories in power than a centre left leader.
Im honestly starting to wonder if they are Tory plants designed to destabilise from within.
tsubaki
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ForeverBlue92
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I was and still am - but he's increasingly digging his own grave allowing the wolf in sheeps clothing to continue conspiring from within.
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