Current Affairs The Labour Party

[davek]

He's utterly useless.

Grammar school boy who knows his place is to preach to working class people, but defer to his betters from public schools.

An utter boot licker.

 

[peteblue]

Grammar school boy who knows his place is to preach to working class people, but defer to his betters from public schools.

An utter boot licker.

I wondered why he looked up to Corbyn.....

 

[neil999]

Long game(I hope)

 

[davek]

I wondered why he looked up to Corbyn.....

What public school did Corbyn attend?

 

[roydo]

What public school did Corbyn attend?

When Corbyn was seven, the family moved to Pave Lane in Shropshire, where his father bought Yew Tree Manor, a 17th-century country house which was once part of the Duke of Sutherland's Lilleshall estate.[16][8][17] Corbyn attended Castle House School, an independent preparatory school near Newport, Shropshire, before, at age 11, becoming a day student at the Adams Grammar School in the town.[18][19]

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

If not, the TUC must organise for mass strategic strike action. Labour can either stand with the people or be swept aside.

Sounds great organise a mass strike, but having been involved in two long bitter strikes both under labour governments which we got shafted both times, I can tell you unless it effects them personally the public don't give a flying one, it sounds cynical but anyone who's been involved in a public service strike will tell you it true.

 

[davek]

When Corbyn was seven, the family moved to Pave Lane in Shropshire, where his father bought Yew Tree Manor, a 17th-century country house which was once part of the Duke of Sutherland's Lilleshall estate.[16][8][17] Corbyn attended Castle House School, an independent preparatory school near Newport, Shropshire, before, at age 11, becoming a day student at the Adams Grammar School in the town.[18][19]

How is that a public school?

 

[dead_soft]

Grammar school boy who knows his place is to preach to working class people, but defer to his betters from public schools.

An utter boot licker.

absolute state of you and your middle class dislike of a working class man who has achieved something. The game is rigged but it is not him doing the rigging

 

[zzr45]

How is that a public school?

The prep school was public, Adams is a selective grammar (with them being a bit less selective if you can flash the cash for boarding.). Would not have got into Adams without having gone to a prep school unless he was a boy genius, which his grades leaving school do not correlate to.

 

[davek]

absolute state of you and your middle class dislike of a working class man who has achieved something. The game is rigged but it is not him doing the rigging

Ha Ha Ha. "Middle class". Nope.

As for him: he had parents so 'socialist' that they (from working class backgrounds) saw fit to put their kid into the grammar school system.

I suggest you familiarise yourself with Starmer's trajectory, from schooling to university to law chambers to politics. It is classic careerism. Picking up and using - and then casting off - people, organisations and ideology that would best serve his progress.

A wrongun.

 

[dead_soft]

Ha Ha Ha. "Middle class". Nope.

As for him: he had parents so 'socialist' that they (from working class backgrounds) saw fit to put their kid into the grammar school system.

I suggest you familiarise yourself with Starmer's trajectory, from schooling to university to law chambers to politics. It is classic careerism. Picking up and using - and then casting off - people, organisations and ideology that would best serve his progress.

A wrongun.

I’m well familiar with his trajectory. Plenty of working class children, myself included, were sent to Grammar school. It doesn’t stop him being working class.
It’s very odd attempt to make it seem bad for working class people to move on in jobs. It’s doing the right wing’s job for them.
It’s bizarre behaviour when you so love Corbyn who went to a prep school and a grammar school. Why does he get off for that but not Starmer?

 

[davek]

I’m well familiar with his trajectory. Plenty of working class children, myself included, were sent to Grammar school. It doesn’t stop him being working class.
It’s very odd attempt to make it seem bad for working class people to move on in jobs. It’s doing the right wing’s job for them.
It’s bizarre behaviour when you so love Corbyn who went to a prep school and a grammar school. Why does he get off for that but not Starmer?

I know working class kids were sent to grammar school (by the way, it wasn't an instruction, it was a choice by their parents).

My point is that A/ his 'socialist' parents made that choice, and B/ that a cursory glance at Starmer's progression through his life shows how he's shape shifted in order to end up where he is. He is not a man of principle and he'll be, for that reason, a safe pair of hands for the British Establishment to hand over power to when the Tory First XI have outstayed their welcome in office.

 

[dead_soft]

I know working class kids were sent to grammar school (by the way, it wasn't an instruction, it was a choice by their parents).

My point is that A/ his 'socialist' parents made that choice, and B/ that a cursory glance at Starmer's progression through his life shows how he's shape shifted in order to end up where he is. He is not a man of principle and he'll be, for that reason, a safe pair of hands for the British Establishment to hand over power to when the Tory First XI have outstayed their welcome in office.

But why don’t you have the same issue with Corbyn and his upbringing? Considering his parents ‘chose’ to send him to fee paying schools followed by selective school.
I’m not a fan of selective or private schools but I’m also not going to use it to preclude someone from a socialist position.
Starmer is soft left, he’s not a Tory, he’s not as left wing as me or many people in the Party but just because he has different views to you or me or believes that change comes within current structures rather than a complete revolution does not mean he is without principal or morals. What exactly do you mean by shape shifted?

 

[davek]

But why don’t you have the same issue with Corbyn and his upbringing? Considering his parents ‘chose’ to send him to fee paying schools followed by selective school.
I’m not a fan of selective or private schools but I’m also not going to use it to preclude someone from a socialist position.
Starmer is soft left, he’s not a Tory, he’s not as left wing as me or many people in the Party but just because he has different views to you or me or believes that change comes within current structures rather than a complete revolution does not mean he is without principal or morals. What exactly do you mean by shape shifted?

Because Corbyn's elementary education didn't impact on him the same way. He drew the right conclusions from his experience and opposed exclusivity and fought for equality for the rest of his life.

Starmer became DPP criminalising 'benefit fraudsters' and ignoring calls to bring the police and army to justice. That's the cut of the man at the top of the LP. A Blairite scumbag who's currently handing the Tories a free hand to kill more of our people. Mr Establishment.

 

[Aberblue]

Because Corbyn's elementary education didn't impact on him the same way. He drew the right conclusions from his experience and opposed exclusivity and fought for equality for the rest of his life.

Starmer became DPP criminalising 'benefit fraudsters' and ignoring calls to bring the police and army to justice. That's the cut of the man at the top of the LP. A Blairite scumbag who's currently handing the Tories a free hand to kill more of our people. Mr Establishment.

Rebecca Wrong-Daily lost the election, Davek. Just accept it.