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[tsubaki]

I know of 4 prominent Labour MPs who wanted to back Danczuk.

Loads did, including Jess Phillips (though she did apologise) and many of the former Brownites who told people to back Boris and then got jobs afterwards.

That they did it was shameful of them.

 

[Number_25]

Loads did, including Jess Phillips (though she did apologise) and many of the former Brownites who told people to back Boris and then got jobs afterwards.

That they did it was shameful of them.

*who still support Danczuk

 

[Tin-Tin]

Quelle surprise...

Labour antisemitism investigation will not be sent to equality commission
A report found factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes".

Labour antisemitism investigation will not be sent to equality commission

A report found factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes".

news.sky.com

The anti-semitism scam laid bare for all to see. An utter disgrace. And you can bet your bottom dollar Starmer was complicit in this....

The report claims private communications show senior former staff "openly worked against the aims and objectives of the leadership of the Party, and in the 2017 general election some key staff even appeared to work against the Party's core objective of winning elections".

The report says the WhatsApp communications in question, which included some of the most senior figures in the party headquarters and Lord McNicol's office, were leaked by one of the group's members.

The examples from chat archives published in the document include:

• Conversations in 2017 which appear to show senior staff preparing for Tom Watson to become interim leader in anticipation of Jeremy Corbyn losing the election
• Conversations which it is claimed show senior staff hid information from the leader's office about digital spending and contact details for MPs and candidates during the election
• Conversations on election night in which the members of the group talk about the need to hide their disappointment that Mr. Corbyn had done better than expected and would be unlikely to resign
• A discussion about whether the grassroots activist network Momentum could be 'proscribed' for being a 'party within a party'
• A discussion about 'unsuspending' a former Labour MP who was critical of Jeremy Corbyn so they could stand as a candidate in the 2017 election
• A discussion about how to prevent corbyn-ally Rebecca Long-Bailey gaining a seat on the party's governing body in 2017
• Regular references to corbyn-supporting party staff as "trots"
• Conversations between senior staff in Lord McNicol's office in which they refer to former director of communications Seamus Milnes as "dracula", and saying he was "spiteful and evil and we should make sure he is never allowed in our Party if it's last thing we do"
• Conversations in which the same group refers to Mr. Corbyn's former chief of staff Karie Murphy as "medusa", a "crazy woman" and a "bitch face cow" that would "make a good dartboard"
• A discussion in which one of the group members expresses their "hope" that a young pro-Corbyn Labour activist, who they acknowledge had mental health problems, "dies in a fire"

He had no chance and it wasnt because of him or his policies, it was because the rich establishmemt and lobbyists were never going to allow a man of principals who wanted a fair societcy where everyone is equal to run the country.

Exactly why Sanders was never going to win the nomination in America.

 

[tsubaki]

*who still support Danczuk

Then they are idiots.

 

[davek]

Well it's laid bare the media conspiracy and how anti-Semitism has become just a political tool.
And what I take from this whatever the consequence of lies, being on the side of truth is a much better feeling, particularly when the negative consequences of those lies are bearing fruit as we type.

We all knew it to be lies. We all knew it to be conspiracy to oust Corbyn. Whatever side you took on Corbyn (wanted him secured or wanted him out) you KNEW that much, so I'll contradict myself here and say there's no laying bare anything regarding the agenda to use that bogus issue.

The stunt was partially successful and helped undermine a good man.

If there's any justice there'd be an inquiry around the conections between the LP right wing, the Tories, certain members of the media commentariat and the Jewish Board of Deputies and their collusion to overturn the democratic mandate of the LP membership - twice.

 

[tsubaki]

We all knew it to be lies. We all knew it to be conspiracy to oust Corbyn. Whatever side you took on Corbyn (wanted him secured or wanted him out) you KNEW that much, so I'll contradict myself here and say there's no laying bare anything regarding the agenda to use that bogus issue.

The stunt was partially successful and helped undermine a good man.

If there's any justice there'd be an inquiry around the conections between the LP right wing, the Tories, certain members of the media commentariat and the Jewish Board of Deputies and their collusion to overturn the democratic mandate of the LP membership - twice.

TBF Dave there’s no need to allege collusion between anyone other than some of the PLP and the media.

The Tories will pile into any Labour splits anyway and the BoD were reacting to stories that were mostly planted by the anti-Corbyn group in the PLP.

If there had been a wider anti-Corbyn front of the kind you describe, AS would have been front and centre early on rather than being the one successful stick out of an awful lot that they tried to use against him. Don’t forget the ones they tried - him being to blame for Brexit, him being to blame for the culture of harassment at Westminster, him having links to pro-nonce groups and so on.

 

[Number_25]

This report is insane.

I hope Sky News releases it, or someone else might.

 

[peteblue]

 

[davek]

TBF Dave there’s no need to allege collusion between anyone other than some of the PLP and the media.

The Tories will pile into any Labour splits anyway and the BoD were reacting to stories that were mostly planted by the anti-Corbyn group in the PLP.

If there had been a wider anti-Corbyn front of the kind you describe, AS would have been front and centre early on rather than being the one successful stick out of an awful lot that they tried to use against him. Don’t forget the ones they tried - him being to blame for Brexit, him being to blame for the culture of harassment at Westminster, him having links to pro-nonce groups and so on.

That's not true. There were geo-political irons in the fire on rubbishing a LP committed to speaking out on the Palestinian issue.

 

[Agent Blue]

Doing a great job at the whole parenting thing, too

Bit like shoving off home and leaving your kid in a pub on their own.

 

[davek]

This report is insane.

I hope Sky News releases it, or someone else might.

Starmer is instructing that this report never gets to the EHRC inquiry.

He knows that anything that undermines the cock and bull story that he and the rest of the LP right wingers concocted will undermine him.

That's the cut of this Blairite. An utter wrongun.

 

[Agent Blue]

Starmer is instructing that this report never gets to the EHRC inquiry.

He knows that anything that undermines the cock and bull story that he and the rest of the LP right wingers concocted will undermine him.

That's the cut of this Blairite. An utter wrongun.

Sad but true. The LP are no longer a party of the working class or the Left.
Starmer has revealed that he can be quite slippery where funding/money is concerned and on that basis I can see him crumbling to the various lobby groups..........as long as the money is right.
Would really like to know why he wouldn't prosecute Saville.

 

[tsubaki]

That's not true. There were geo-political irons in the fire on rubbishing a LP committed to speaking out on the Palestinian issue.

Not really; as I said if that was the case then the argument against Corbyn would have been AS-based straight away, since his views on Palestine were well known, all of the things used against Corbyn personally occured before 2015 and almost all of them had either been reported on or were easily available.

The fight against Corbyn was always run by the disappointed faction in the PLP. They tried several things to delegitimize him without any success, then settled on AS after the 2017 election (and NEC elections) made his position stronger. To get rid of him then meant raising the stakes and starting to damage the party, which of course is what they then did.

 

[Number_25]

I hope it gets leaked, the Ian McNicol stuff is incredible. I knew it was bad as I was involved in complaints procedures at the time for my CLP, but didn't quite realise just how awfully he ran the party.

 

[evilwebby]

Bit like shoving off home and leaving your kid in a pub on their own.

Yep, one lapse of concentration after a beer and my son becomes a drug dealer.