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[roydo]

just how awfully he ran the party.

Who?

 

[peteblue]

Who?

All of them.....

 

[davek]

Not really; as I said if that was the case then the argument against Corbyn would have been AS-based straight away, since his views on Palestine were well known, all of the things used against Corbyn personally occured before 2015 and almost all of them had either been reported on or were easily available.

The fight against Corbyn was always run by the disappointed faction in the PLP. They tried several things to delegitimize him without any success, then settled on AS after the 2017 election (and NEC elections) made his position stronger. To get rid of him then meant raising the stakes and starting to damage the party, which of course is what they then did.

It was straight away. "Anti-semitism" has been up and running for years even before Corbyn to de-legitimise anyone who isn't taking cash from Labour Friends of Israel. The scurrilous attacks on Miliband from Jewish groups and the LP right wing are a case in point. Miliband recognised a state for Palestine and that was it: he was on rocky ground.

 

[tsubaki]

It was straight away. "Anti-semitism" has been up and running for years even before Corbyn to de-legitimise anyone who isn't taking cash from Labour Friends of Israel. The scurrilous attacks on Miliband from Jewish groups and the LP right wing are a case in point. Miliband recognised a state for Palestine and that was it: he was on rocky ground.

You can't have a conspiracy against Corbyn and also have it start years before he became leader, though.

 

[davek]

You can't have a conspiracy against Corbyn and also have it start years before he became leader, though.

There is no "conspiracy theory" (and the point about ousting a leader doesn't have a numerical limit on it): it was self evident that both Miliband and Corbyn were not deemed either market-friendly enough or foreign policy pliant enough by a right wing Atlanticist cabal who infilitrated the LP in the 1980s and have the overwhelming support of the Establishment in all its guises to retake control over Labour. The fact that Corbyn felt their ire more keenly than Miliband is neither here nor there.

 

[Agent Blue]

Yep, one lapse of concentration after a beer and my son becomes a drug dealer.

I wonder how many social workers have heard that one, but if you're upper class I guess it's OK.

 

[Connor]

Everything that has come out today is absolutely disgusting.

 

[roydo]

Everything that has come out today is absolutely disgusting.

What has come out?

 

[Connor]

What has come out?

 

[davek]

Everything that has come out today is absolutely disgusting.

...and Starmer sitting on it and refusing to add it to the EHRC.

 

[Connor]

...and Starmer sitting on it and refusing to add it to the EHRC.

If anyone, ever again, tries to tell us that the left of the party is the problem, that report is just getting sent their way.

He needs to pull his finger out already.

 

[tsubaki]

If anyone, ever again, tries to tell us that the left of the party is the problem, that report is just getting sent their way.

He needs to pull his finger out already.

TBF its really hard to see how the EHRC doesn't now get a copy of that report, irrespective of what "the lawyers" say (or even the leadership). It is demonstrably relevant to the Inquiry and they know it exists.

 

[tsubaki]

just as an aside, the Patrick Heneghan mentioned in that alleged Whatsapp group conversation is this guy:

The acting chief executive of the People’s Vote campaign has stepped down while an investigation takes place into allegations of harassment towards female staff, it has emerged.

In the latest development in the implosion of the second referendum campaign, Patrick Heneghan, a former head of campaigns for the Labour party, has been accused of acting inappropriately towards three female staff members while working within another anti-Brexit campaign group.

Heneghan, who denies the claims, has opted to stand down while they are investigated by an independent team of lawyers. It comes with dozens of staff members still refusing to return to work after two senior campaign figures were fired as part of an alleged power grab by Roland Rudd, the PR guru and the campaign’s chairman.

Staff had said they would not return to work while Heneghan, appointed by Rudd just weeks ago, was at the helm. Others still want to see the reinstatement of James McGrory and Tom Baldwin, the former officials fired by Rudd.

(Heneghan was subsequently "cleared", after noone came forward to speak to lawyers that PV had hired to investigate the matter)

 

[davek]

TBF its really hard to see how the EHRC doesn't now get a copy of that report, irrespective of what "the lawyers" say (or even the leadership). It is demonstrably relevant to the Inquiry and they know it exists.

"It's a report written by Corbynites who then deliberately leaked it, blaming their antisemitism on other people plotting against ‘Jeremy’...and now they’re bleating that Starmer won’t send their forgery to the EHRC.”

Courtesy of the Jewish Chronicle.


That's the way it'll be spun.

 

[tsubaki]

"It's a report written by Corbynites who then deliberately leaked it, blaming their antisemitism on other people plotting against ‘Jeremy’...and now they’re bleating that Starmer won’t send their forgery to the EHRC.”

Courtesy of the Jewish Chronicle.


That's the way it'll be spun.

doubt it dave, they've gone bust