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[tsubaki]

Just wondering - what effect, if any, with this crisis have on the Labour Leadership election?

the special conference has been cancelled but the election is still going on

 

[Paris]

Labour MP must apologise over tirade at journalist asking about son’s drug case

Kate Osamor resigned from the front bench over the threat to a reporter.

www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk

She sounds nice.

 

[Harryflashman]

Labour MP must apologise over tirade at journalist asking about son’s drug case

Kate Osamor resigned from the front bench over the threat to a reporter.

www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk

She sounds nice.

its completely unacceptable behaviour for an mp and I wouldn’t seek to defend it at all , rightly she’s lost her front bench role .

however she’s lost her mind with a journalist over her child and made what seems to be an idle threat and from that reporting it seems the police and the journalist shared that view . Whether the child is young or older and in this case a convicted drug dealer or simply a victim it is her child . I’m guessing , it’s only a guess , the journalist didn’t call the police so it’s either her or neighbours meaning you’d think things on the doorstep had gone on for a while . Again I’m not defending but empathising I suppose .

No issue with her losing her position but I can imagine me becoming verbally aggressive towards the journalist in similar circumstances. It’s not like In the cold light of day she’s plotting with a friend to actually assault a journalist, there would surely be no coming back from that .

 

[Paris]

its completely unacceptable behaviour for an mp and I wouldn’t seek to defend it at all , rightly she’s lost her front bench role .

however she’s lost her mind with a journalist over her child and made what seems to be an idle threat and from that reporting it seems the police and the journalist shared that view . Whether the child is young or older and in this case a convicted drug dealer or simply a victim it is her child . I’m guessing , it’s only a guess , the journalist didn’t call the police so it’s either her or neighbours meaning you’d think things on the doorstep had gone on for a while . Again I’m not defending but empathising I suppose .
No issue with her losing her position but I can imagine me becoming verbally aggressive towards the journalist in similar circumstances.

Unfortunately there are things that you have to accept if you're to become a prominent public figure, increased scrutiny by the public is one of those.

 

[Harryflashman]

Unfortunately there are things that you have to accept if you're to become a prominent public figure, increased scrutiny by the public is one of those.

totally and I think I tried to convey that , she’s lost a front bench role and that seems appropriate but I can at least partially empathise .

I edited my post after you quoted me , our current PM actually plotted to assist in the assault of a journalist and it didn’t impact on his career at all . So I mean what can you say

 

[Catfish Blues]

Andy Burnham went up in my estimation after watching Question Time yesterday. I've always thought he was a bit lightweight, but he spoke really well.

 

[Harryflashman]

Andy Burnham went up in my estimation after watching Question Time yesterday. I've always thought he was a bit lightweight, but he spoke really well.

yeah what I heard I thought he was impressive

 

[Hickson9]

Andy Burnham went up in my estimation after watching Question Time yesterday. I've always thought he was a bit lightweight, but he spoke really well.

He's sound as well. I've watched Everton with him in a pub in Westminster.

 

[degsy]

Just wondering - what effect, if any, with this crisis have on the Labour Leadership election?

Its hardly a new thing this virus, maybe it will eventually wake them up to put Johnsons feet to the fire in this.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Quelle surprise...

Labour antisemitism investigation will not be sent to equality commission
A report found factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes".

Labour antisemitism investigation will not be sent to equality commission

A report found factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes".

news.sky.com

 

[davek]

Quelle surprise...

Labour antisemitism investigation will not be sent to equality commission
A report found factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes".

Labour antisemitism investigation will not be sent to equality commission

A report found factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes".

news.sky.com

The anti-semitism scam laid bare for all to see. An utter disgrace. And you can bet your bottom dollar Starmer was complicit in this....

The report claims private communications show senior former staff "openly worked against the aims and objectives of the leadership of the Party, and in the 2017 general election some key staff even appeared to work against the Party's core objective of winning elections".

The report says the WhatsApp communications in question, which included some of the most senior figures in the party headquarters and Lord McNicol's office, were leaked by one of the group's members.

The examples from chat archives published in the document include:

• Conversations in 2017 which appear to show senior staff preparing for Tom Watson to become interim leader in anticipation of Jeremy Corbyn losing the election
• Conversations which it is claimed show senior staff hid information from the leader's office about digital spending and contact details for MPs and candidates during the election
• Conversations on election night in which the members of the group talk about the need to hide their disappointment that Mr. Corbyn had done better than expected and would be unlikely to resign
• A discussion about whether the grassroots activist network Momentum could be 'proscribed' for being a 'party within a party'
• A discussion about 'unsuspending' a former Labour MP who was critical of Jeremy Corbyn so they could stand as a candidate in the 2017 election
• A discussion about how to prevent corbyn-ally Rebecca Long-Bailey gaining a seat on the party's governing body in 2017
• Regular references to corbyn-supporting party staff as "trots"
• Conversations between senior staff in Lord McNicol's office in which they refer to former director of communications Seamus Milnes as "dracula", and saying he was "spiteful and evil and we should make sure he is never allowed in our Party if it's last thing we do"
• Conversations in which the same group refers to Mr. Corbyn's former chief of staff Karie Murphy as "medusa", a "crazy woman" and a "bitch face cow" that would "make a good dartboard"
• A discussion in which one of the group members expresses their "hope" that a young pro-Corbyn Labour activist, who they acknowledge had mental health problems, "dies in a fire"

 

[evilwebby]

Labour MP must apologise over tirade at journalist asking about son’s drug case

Kate Osamor resigned from the front bench over the threat to a reporter.

www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk

She sounds nice.

Doing a great job at the whole parenting thing, too

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The anti-semitism scam laid bare for all to see. An utter disgrace. And you can bet your bottom dollar Starmer was complicit in this....

The report claims private communications show senior former staff "openly worked against the aims and objectives of the leadership of the Party, and in the 2017 general election some key staff even appeared to work against the Party's core objective of winning elections".

The report says the WhatsApp communications in question, which included some of the most senior figures in the party headquarters and Lord McNicol's office, were leaked by one of the group's members.

The examples from chat archives published in the document include:

• Conversations in 2017 which appear to show senior staff preparing for Tom Watson to become interim leader in anticipation of Jeremy Corbyn losing the election
• Conversations which it is claimed show senior staff hid information from the leader's office about digital spending and contact details for MPs and candidates during the election
• Conversations on election night in which the members of the group talk about the need to hide their disappointment that Mr. Corbyn had done better than expected and would be unlikely to resign
• A discussion about whether the grassroots activist network Momentum could be 'proscribed' for being a 'party within a party'
• A discussion about 'unsuspending' a former Labour MP who was critical of Jeremy Corbyn so they could stand as a candidate in the 2017 election
• A discussion about how to prevent corbyn-ally Rebecca Long-Bailey gaining a seat on the party's governing body in 2017
• Regular references to corbyn-supporting party staff as "trots"
• Conversations between senior staff in Lord McNicol's office in which they refer to former director of communications Seamus Milnes as "dracula", and saying he was "spiteful and evil and we should make sure he is never allowed in our Party if it's last thing we do"
• Conversations in which the same group refers to Mr. Corbyn's former chief of staff Karie Murphy as "medusa", a "crazy woman" and a "bitch face cow" that would "make a good dartboard"
• A discussion in which one of the group members expresses their "hope" that a young pro-Corbyn Labour activist, who they acknowledge had mental health problems, "dies in a fire"

Well it's laid bare the media conspiracy and how anti-Semitism has become just a political tool.
And what I take from this whatever the consequence of lies, being on the side of truth is a much better feeling, particularly when the negative consequences of those lies are bearing fruit as we type.

 

[tsubaki]

The anti-semitism scam laid bare for all to see. An utter disgrace. And you can bet your bottom dollar Starmer was complicit in this....

The report claims private communications show senior former staff "openly worked against the aims and objectives of the leadership of the Party, and in the 2017 general election some key staff even appeared to work against the Party's core objective of winning elections".

The report says the WhatsApp communications in question, which included some of the most senior figures in the party headquarters and Lord McNicol's office, were leaked by one of the group's members.

The examples from chat archives published in the document include:

• Conversations in 2017 which appear to show senior staff preparing for Tom Watson to become interim leader in anticipation of Jeremy Corbyn losing the election
• Conversations which it is claimed show senior staff hid information from the leader's office about digital spending and contact details for MPs and candidates during the election
• Conversations on election night in which the members of the group talk about the need to hide their disappointment that Mr. Corbyn had done better than expected and would be unlikely to resign
• A discussion about whether the grassroots activist network Momentum could be 'proscribed' for being a 'party within a party'
• A discussion about 'unsuspending' a former Labour MP who was critical of Jeremy Corbyn so they could stand as a candidate in the 2017 election
• A discussion about how to prevent corbyn-ally Rebecca Long-Bailey gaining a seat on the party's governing body in 2017
• Regular references to corbyn-supporting party staff as "trots"
• Conversations between senior staff in Lord McNicol's office in which they refer to former director of communications Seamus Milnes as "dracula", and saying he was "spiteful and evil and we should make sure he is never allowed in our Party if it's last thing we do"
• Conversations in which the same group refers to Mr. Corbyn's former chief of staff Karie Murphy as "medusa", a "crazy woman" and a "bitch face cow" that would "make a good dartboard"
• A discussion in which one of the group members expresses their "hope" that a young pro-Corbyn Labour activist, who they acknowledge had mental health problems, "dies in a fire"

Just to add a bit of context, IIRC the only Labour MP critical of Corbyn who was suspended in 2017 and unable to stand was Danczuk - he of the sexts to a 16/17 year old who had asked for a job, claiming for the expenses of kids who didn’t live with him, booting out members of his own party who raised alarm over suspected domestic abuse Danczuk had been alleged to have done, arranging his own pap photos with an agency and so on.

Anyone who wanted him to remain a Labour MP at that point in time is either a moron or really hated Labour.

 

[Number_25]

Just to add a bit of context, IIRC the only Labour MP critical of Corbyn who was suspended in 2017 and unable to stand was Danczuk - he of the sexts to a 16/17 year old who had asked for a job, claiming for the expenses of kids who didn’t live with him, booting out members of his own party who raised alarm over suspected domestic abuse Danczuk had been alleged to have done, arranging his own pap photos with an agency and so on.

Anyone who wanted him to remain a Labour MP at that point in time is either a moron or really hated Labour.

I know of 4 prominent Labour MPs who wanted to back Danczuk.