Or it's just quicker and not everybody's a Tory for using shorthand?
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Or it's just quicker and not everybody's a Tory for using shorthand?
Or now, a Tory for using someone's first name
I really do try not to get involved. I proper can't be bothered with it anymore. They're all bad meffs. People idolise Corbyn. It's weird. He's achieved nothing. Promised a lot, but nothing's changed and nothing will.
How anyone could rightfully think that he'd be in a position to go up against Johnson now is beyond me.
1. Of course there isn't another leader - the left have successfully infiltrated the entire party and any politician of note since 2015 has been a Corbyn sycophant. The Labour party as it was when it was electable is dead now. Milliband killed it by allowing entryism.
2. The 'centrists' when they were 'last in government' where exactly that - in government. Get back to me when Corbyn manages that feat for starters.
3. The last left-wing Labour government is at this point beyond living memory of most of Corbyn's supporters. Hell, anyones memory depending on your criteria. Wilson? Attlee? Hardly left wing. Callaghan for five minutes perhaps. Britain isn't an extreme left wing country, never has been - closest it came was post-WW2.
Claiming the centre-ground is 'fantasy politics' whilst acclaiming the 'recovery' of Labour - against the backdrop of a near decade of austerity and overwhelming Tory incompetence - by going extreme left is ironic.
'Semi-permanently get rid of about 40 Labour seats"... which of course Blair won and then some in the first instance. Amazing revisionism. New Labour, for all its' faults, turned a three figure seat deficit under Thatcher when she wiped the floor with the inept left of Foot and Kinnock and turned it into a three figure seat majority.
Blair took on the Tories in much, much better shape than this lot and annihilated them. Yet Corbyn is the constant underdog no matter what the Tories do. And people applaud him for it. Boggles the mind.
Just for a bit of balance, most of the Conservative Party was as surprised as Labour when Theresa May called her election. In many cases, (for all parties) candidates were put in at the last moment, resulting in some oddballs getting in.
This apart from the Tories running the most clueless, inept campaign that anyone can remember. They targeted pensioners with the threat to abolish the triple lock; they frightened old people with their "dementia tax" proposal; they even suggested some nonsense about bringing back fox hunting, which would not have gained them a single vote.
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It’s not much quicker, 2 more letters, and the same number of syllables
Or now, a Tory for using someone's first name
I really do try not to get involved. I proper can't be bothered with it anymore. They're all bad meffs. People idolise Corbyn. It's weird. He's achieved nothing. Promised a lot, but nothing's changed and nothing will.
How anyone could rightfully think that he'd be in a position to go up against Johnson now is beyond me.
The only way he beats Johnson is a Lib Dem/SNP coalition. Swinson has ruled that out, but he's made overtures to the SNP with a second Scottish referendum, so I think he'd try to do it as a minority government with the most seats in parliament. I think the Lib Dems would be persuaded to not field candidates in seats Labour could win due to the overarching desire to stop Brexit, rather than go for the formal coalition, so a Corbyn minority government is possible for that reason.
But then you have to wonder if the Brexit Party would bow out to give Johnson a clean run at an election instead of leeching Tory Brexiteer votes.
But yeah, there's zero chance of a Corbyn majority government, absolutely none. Less chance than a Johnson one, which is at least possible.
I don't think someone typing out Boris instead of Johnson has any impact on their political leanings, personally.
I'd put money on it then if I were you - you'll get excellent odds on a Labour outright majority right now...
In fact, just checked - 15/2 at PaddyPower.
Or you could be smart and go with what is pretty much a cert to be the outcome - no overall majority at 4/6, with Corbyn minority government leader at 9/4.
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Language has an impact.
It's Lammy. Everything is racist all the time to him. It's his thing, a trademark. He has nothing else to offer.
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If this was the case Johnson would have called an election as soon as. Instead it's Corbyn calling for one...
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Thanks for balanced view into Labours 2017 manifesto, sure it made no difference for some, despite procrastination to contrary and desperate need to do personality rather than policy, it's always what's not mentioned is the give away. However, the manifesto resonated with many of the wider electorate in 2017, and that is what matters.
15/2 in the silly season before conference, in Johnson honeymoon period, without election date or manifesto until 2022 as it stands. Its very good odds, I suggest we all take a Corbyn win. You all can thank me now...
Abbott on Radio 4 talking about freedom of movement having to end. So Labour are all about protecting workers rights, except the one that allows them to work in 27 other European countries freely and easily. Rightio.
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