Gwladysstreetlad
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Then no, i don't agree with him. Everything (including politics) goes in cycles and the idea that liberalism is dead is absurd.
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No, same as people who sympathise with the Palestinian people aren't anti semitic.
Tel Aviv and Isreal are on my places to visit, need to get that done soon.
Tory.
tsubaki
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The problem with this theory - and the reason why it has been found to be false - is that the electorate and the political class have entirely different understandings of what "centrism" is.
The public thinks it means "not extreme", average, middle-of-the-road sort of politics, which is why claims that a politician is extreme (one way or the other), radical, fights against the orthodox (of whatever side) etc are so often deployed by opponents and the papers to put people off voting for them. They think it means politicians who believe in what the majority want, even though that is something thats impossible to define, is very vulnerable to sudden events / manipulation and which shifts over time anyway. People are also very reluctant to ever admit that they were wrong, which is why something that was centrist once (like the hostile environment, which both major parties agreed with) is now no longer centrist.
Politicians on the other hand believe that it is a definable type of political belief - the same sort of actually quite right-wing, pro-market, pro-EU, pretending to be a bit paternalist careerist nonsense that people are almost required to adopt as a faith before they get on in any of the main parties.
When the public are confronted with actual centrists standing on an actual centrist platform, they (at least given the evidence of the past twenty years) usually run away; when only centrism is on the menu (as it was in 2010 and 2015), they either hold their noses and vote or do not vote at all. It is only when centrist parties masquerade as something else that they get success.
And with the bumbling oaf coming down the pike at an alarming rate to make up the trio of Terrible Tories
Agent Blue
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And with the bumbling oaf coming down the pike at an alarming rate to make up the trio of Terrible Tories
Swear to God it's an absolute freak show.
I've just written the above sentence and then thought flippin eck how bad the question has to be, if Boris Johnson is the answer. Even Grayling would be a better.....oh wait......err
There was an MP for Liverpool (though not from Liverpool, from the south and sounded very middle class) on saying she now supports the Tories more than Labour. Even a Tory government under Johnson hurtling towards no deal. Yet no action is taken, and no furore is caused.
Kids are going to the weekend with no food to eat. Kids in her own constituency. Yet she will support a party who are implementing policies causing their suffering.
It's a disgrace. If (and perhaps when) Corbyn is forced out I'll never vote for that shower again. I'd honestly vote for the Tories ahead of the PLP now. At least the Tories don't hide what they are, who they are and do their best to represent who they are there to represent. I may not like or agree with any of those things, but there is a grudging respect for how they try to do their best for their constituency group. This lot of Labour Mp's (with a few exceptions) have trampled all over the people who support them.
As a final shot, imagine identifying a party as anti-semitic, but refusing to leave it for two years. What does that say about your character? If I was in aparty who's leader I felt was anti-Semitic, I'd be gone the next day. The fact they prioritise their 80k per/annum plus expenses over that principles hangs them by their own petard.
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I've said it from day one of Corbyn's election: forget pacifying the blairites for electoral purposes. Gloves off: instruct the membership at constituency level they'll be backed on de-selections; encourage Blairite defections and resignations; retain the legal right to be called "The Labour Party".
The rats in the LP know what will happen to them if they leave: oblivion...as that tool Umunna and his cohorts found out.
It'd help if the shadow Cabinet weren't all from neighbouring North London boroughs. No wonder Scotland is lost.
NilSatisOptimum
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Thats just Mail Express and BBC sky pundit waffle, and blatantly untrue. What about Dan Carden at international affairs!? And others from constituency's such as Salford, West Bromwich, Barnsley, Lancaster Leeds and Middlesbrough etc.
His Majesty's Official Opposition: The Shadow Cabinet - MPs and Lords - UK Parliament
This list details those MPs and Members of the House of Lords that hold an opposition post, their position and 'shadow' department.
Thats just Mail Express and BBC sky pundit waffle, and blatantly untrue. What about Dan Carden at international affairs!? And others from constituency's such as Salford, West Bromwich, Barnsley, Lancaster Leeds and Middlesbrough etc.
His Majesty's Official Opposition: The Shadow Cabinet - MPs and Lords - UK Parliament
This list details those MPs and Members of the House of Lords that hold an opposition post, their position and 'shadow' department.www.parliament.uk
None from Scotland or Wales.
Surely the shadow Secretaries for Scotland and Wales must be from those countries? Mind you, the current crop of Labour MPs from Wales are a singularly talentless lot.
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