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catcherintherye said:
There is a question about public interest though. Swigging a can of Mohito I am not sure is worth pursuing much further than a caution (for any politician). Would seem a waste of my taxes any further (and in truth a far worse moral offence).

She has apologised, acknowledged a mistake that ought to be it done.

The law is there to be followed, how we define "pursued" is open though isn't it?

There are about a million and one laws in the Uk, a politician not following the odd tiny one is far of no real consequence.

That being said, some of the laws that were broken around foreign invasions from Cameron/Blair really ought to be acted upon a bit more.
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My point really is that when some pillock is getting drunk swigging a whisky bottle on the underground, he can no longer be prosecuted. He can just do exactly what Abbott did, apologise on Twitter, and it all goes away. Otherwise it’s one rule for one and another for the rest of us......
 
peteblue said:
My point really is that when some pillock is getting drunk swigging a whisky bottle on the underground, he can no longer be prosecuted. He can just do exactly what Abbott did, apologise on Twitter, and it all goes away. Otherwise it’s one rule for one and another for the rest of us......
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He can. Happens all the time. It’s not great but it’s an imperfect system. Also, add that no-one hs been prosecuted for having a drink on the tube. You’re actually suggesting putting in one rule for her to be prosecuted and another for everyone else
 
dead_soft said:
He can. Happens all the time. It’s not great but it’s an imperfect system. Also, add that no-one hs been prosecuted for having a drink on the tube. You’re actually suggesting putting in one rule for her to be prosecuted and another for everyone else
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Then why have a law saying you cannot drink. I’d be happy if they removed the law, but if you have it then it needs to be followed through, or get rid of it.....
 
peteblue said:
Then why have a law saying you cannot drink. I’d be happy if they removed the law, but if you have it then it needs to be followed through, or get rid of it.....
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It’s not a law. Even if it was, there are loads of laws that aren’t followed up with. Not all laws do need to be followed up with and if you actually thought about it, it wouldn’t be an enjoyable country if every one was.
 
The only crime that’s been committed is Abbot drinking a M&S Mojito. Frankly I’m disgusted that she’s even justified that impression of a mojito as an actual alcoholic drink. We have a fine tradition of alcohol abuse in this country and she’s trampling all over it.
 
peteblue said:
Then why have a law saying you cannot drink. I’d be happy if they removed the law, but if you have it then it needs to be followed through, or get rid of it.....
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Merseyrail and some London services changed bylaw's saying you cannot bring or consume alcohol onto their networks its bylaw 4 on merseyrail, think they got changed about 2010 to 2012
They can and do refuse travel or ask you to leave the station /train if you don't comply.
Other TOC's have a policy of you can drink but must not be intoxicated or anti social , they can take the alcohol off you in these cases or ask you to pour it away.
everybody on rail property is subject to the bylaws, if you haven't got a ticket/platform ticket ect and they wanted to strictly enforce them they can fine you for trespass on the network .
which can carry a heavy fine.
hope this helps
 
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dead_soft said:
It’s not a law. Even if it was, there are loads of laws that aren’t followed up with. Not all laws do need to be followed up with and if you actually thought about it, it wouldn’t be an enjoyable country if every one was.
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Fine, so get rid of it. Just don’t let certain people get away with it.....
 
peteblue said:
Fine, so get rid of it. Just don’t let certain people get away with it.....
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It’s not ‘certain people’ it’s everyone. The rules work, nothing to get yourself upset about. Do you really want police time to be spent on this? Especially when you think the whole of London is surrounded by gangs of knife wielding kids? If not, be happy that the police force implements common sense in situations like this and doesn’t allow angry internet folks and right wing journalists to decide who gets arrested
 
dead_soft said:
It’s not ‘certain people’ it’s everyone. The rules work, nothing to get yourself upset about. Do you really want police time to be spent on this? Especially when you think the whole of London is surrounded by gangs of knife wielding kids? If not, be happy that the police force implements common sense in situations like this and doesn’t allow angry internet folks and right wing journalists to decide who gets arrested
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I seldom use the tube but can't ever recall seeing coppers on it just hoping to arrest someone for having a drink. This is opportunist point scoring.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Gawd knows. It just seems very silly to me. I wouldn't be surprised if Boris hadn't ridden his bike after a few drinks, but would it warrant front page news?
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Without question, she gets a really hard time (like her numerical error vs several tories making far worse mistakes that get little/no media attention), but i do think mp's shouldn't transgress any laws and ought to respect applicable rules.
 
orchard said:
Without question, she gets a really hard time (like her numerical error vs several tories making far worse mistakes that get little/no media attention), but i do think mp's shouldn't transgress any laws and ought to respect applicable rules.
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Compare it to response Rory Stewart got when he openly lied about the support Mays Brexit deal was getting from the electorate.

Abbott is Female Black Educated and of the left, she is legitimate target...

Meanwhile Rory Stewart Prison Minster, Male White and Educated can openly lie about the future direction of the country with the single most important policy for generations just apologise and move on.

www.bbc.co.uk

Minister apologises for inventing Brexit stat

Rory Stewart claimed on 5 Live that 80% of British public supported the prime minister's Brexit deal.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Spot the hypocrisy...
 
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