davek
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You laughing at people
When you voted for Galloway
As if people in here didn’t think you were unhinged enough
Is this nonsense all you have left?
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Is this nonsense all you have left?
How's that working out for you?
Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
Which bit is nonsense?Is this nonsense all you have left?
You voted for human rights abusing lover and cat man Galloway
You are basically the forum jester.
davek
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Undoubtedly, but you can't just plonk these things willy nilly. They tend to be placed where there are skills, access to energy, and when speed of processing matters, close to data users. Even if all of those things align for Rochdale, I think the latest data centre for OpenAI employs around 40 people, so the economic boon to the community will be limited, while the energy implications on the local community are likely to be significant. That's even before DeepSeek came along and made the "more data" argument somewhat redundant. It all suggests a report and policy that was made up on the hoof to reflect the uneasy love in between Silicon Valley and Trump.
Let's set aside the data centres. Which was never my specific argument.
My broader point is, where are the opportunities and investments elsewhere?
Why he rush for the South East all the time?
It has not gone unnoticed amongst their own MPs.
Edit: and from what you are saying the announcement of silicone valley in the southeast is a white elephant which is questionable for growth anyway. So actually begs more questions on where is the plan?
Any epidemiological data to back that up Dave? Or just posturing?
I accept your surrender.
Anyone checked you over for a concussion this morning?
davek
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'Labour' Defence Secretary met the UK Arms Industry for dinner the other night...
On 28 January, Labour Party defence secretary John Healey spoke at the annual ADS dinner. The dinner, held at the JW Marriott Grosvenor House hotel on Park Lane, is a major lobbying and networking event for the arms industry. Healey used his speech to criticise student campus protests over arms trade involvement in their universities.
He stated that “We don’t stop wars by boycotting our defence industry. We stop wars by backing it”.
Event sponsors included BAE Systems and Babcock. BAE Systems is the lead partner in the F-35 combat aircraft programme. The UK made 15% of every F-35 Israel used to drop 2000lb bombs on Gaza. The F-35 licence was exempted from Labour’s partial arms suspension despite evidence that Israel used F-35s to commit war crimes.
Speaking at the 2025 dinner, ADS’ CEO claimed that “Despite what you may have heard on the way in, we are not the bad guys”, before praising the Labour government for its “strong show of support, understanding and listening”.
In 2024, the ADS dinner was attended by over 1200 people, including 40+ members of parliament, eight government ministers, opposition front benchers, and international delegations. Also in attendance was arms trade lobbyist and so-called ‘independent’ government advisor on political violence and
disruption, Lord Walney aka John Woodcock. Walney complained to GB News in 2024 that attendees had to “run the gauntlet” of protesters to attend the event.
Campaign Against Arms Trade’s (CAAT) 2024 report on political influence revealed the disturbing level of access and influence the arms industry has on UK government. This included BAE Systems having more meetings with ministers, and more with prime ministers, than any other private company. On average, between 2009-19, senior government officials and ministers met with their arms industry counterparts 1.64 times a day.
On 28 January, Labour Party defence secretary John Healey spoke at the annual ADS dinner. The dinner, held at the JW Marriott Grosvenor House hotel on Park Lane, is a major lobbying and networking event for the arms industry. Healey used his speech to criticise student campus protests over arms trade involvement in their universities.
He stated that “We don’t stop wars by boycotting our defence industry. We stop wars by backing it”.
Event sponsors included BAE Systems and Babcock. BAE Systems is the lead partner in the F-35 combat aircraft programme. The UK made 15% of every F-35 Israel used to drop 2000lb bombs on Gaza. The F-35 licence was exempted from Labour’s partial arms suspension despite evidence that Israel used F-35s to commit war crimes.
Speaking at the 2025 dinner, ADS’ CEO claimed that “Despite what you may have heard on the way in, we are not the bad guys”, before praising the Labour government for its “strong show of support, understanding and listening”.
In 2024, the ADS dinner was attended by over 1200 people, including 40+ members of parliament, eight government ministers, opposition front benchers, and international delegations. Also in attendance was arms trade lobbyist and so-called ‘independent’ government advisor on political violence and
disruption, Lord Walney aka John Woodcock. Walney complained to GB News in 2024 that attendees had to “run the gauntlet” of protesters to attend the event.
Campaign Against Arms Trade’s (CAAT) 2024 report on political influence revealed the disturbing level of access and influence the arms industry has on UK government. This included BAE Systems having more meetings with ministers, and more with prime ministers, than any other private company. On average, between 2009-19, senior government officials and ministers met with their arms industry counterparts 1.64 times a day.
One could very well argue that the focus is predominantly on the south-east because that's where Westminster is. Our politics is among the most centralised in the western world. I thought this was quite a good description (I'm sure Tom Forth might also have something to say on data centres)
Why North England is poor.
And why Thatcher is partly to blame, but not in the way most people argue.
A Galloway-led MoD would be like this whenever anyone in the UK wanted to talk to them about supplying the military:
Because we would of course just be buying 2nd hand MiGs that don't work, like the rest of the Russian satellite states that Dave wants us aligned with.
Because we would of course just be buying 2nd hand MiGs that don't work, like the rest of the Russian satellite states that Dave wants us aligned with.
Quite. And once again, we seem to have a political party unable or unwilling to do much to change the status quo.One could very well argue that the focus is predominantly on the south-east because that's where Westminster is. Our politics is among the most centralised in the western world. I thought this was quite a good description (I'm sure Tom Forth might also have something to say on data centres)
Why North England is poor.
And why Thatcher is partly to blame, but not in the way most people argue.tomforth.co.uk
Just thought I’d check excess deaths out of interest. Good news, excess deaths under expectation as of 17/01/25
My quick scan of various bits of research shows the health impacts of winter fuel payments isn't perhaps as straightforward as many make out. There's some effect, but don't let that stop the shrieking hysteria of the likes of Dave.
It's been pretty underwhelming from an ideas point of view.
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