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Does Heathrow really need a third runway?

The problem Labour have with issues like this is that much of their core support are going to disagree and much of the people that do agree are not going to vote or back them anyways.
Pretty much this.

I’d say the task any government faced after 14 years of managed decline is too big for any one party.

Basically the Tory’s have decimated everything from public services and infrastructure and even the hope and goodwill to the point that it can’t be turned around easily.

What this country needs is a revolution, with the targets being the royals and the corrupt bankers and politicians who have let it get to this state.

Won’t happen though obviously.
 
Does Heathrow really need a third runway?

The problem Labour have with issues like this is that much of their core support are going to disagree and much of the people that do agree are not going to vote or back them anyways.
It has been a topic up in the air (arf!) for decades, when d!ckhead was London mayor one of his spivs dreamed up the fantasy of reclaiming part of the Thames river and splashing a runway onto that.

If the traffic requires it, then get it built. The thing is, if it's a case of keeping up with Paris, they can throw land at new runways and terminals all they like because they have it. Heathrow gets bigger, so Paris goes bigger, then the onus falls on London capacity again. Was an East west branch of HS2 a possibility to connect another airport? How will the elizabeth line be impacted or expanded?

A common theme recently has been the idea of a 'grown up conversation' - about pensions, about infrastructure, about new laws, about attitudes to growth and how immigration and European cooperation are required. The problem with 'grown up conversations' is that it requires grown ups. Vast swathes of the public are either to thick or uninterested or simply don't care (or all three!) to actually engage with a problem to then make an informed and constructive input to making progressive decisions. That [Poor language removed] gove coughed up that "the people of this country have had enough of experts", he was sort of correct, the people of this country don't want to listen and be informed and involved in decisions, they want to renege upon responsibility and have someone else deal with it. The very same morons that then start moaning about the Nanny state.

This is why we get the politicians we have. Dastardly chancers with their fingers in the till, sex pests, and fraudsters. Someone turns up with some ethical behaviour and the dirt scum press have them as a communist before they step into office.

The knob-heads that are happy with business as usual under tory control are the few that benefit, at the detriment of the rest.

It's easier to complain about knackered infrastructure, decaying hospitals and prisons, rising taxes across the board, services in decline, and there being a lack of hope. You and your children have had your future sold out from beneath you. This is a modern equivalent of serfdom, and now the realities of poverty and shortened lifespans, and managed decline of living standards and health are starting to come to the fore.

Having achieved very little so far and been critiqued for every minute of it, it seems this or any labour government will face an overwhelming uphill battle to deliver any measurable betterment to the public.

Maybe we should all move to Scotland and push for another independence vote en mass, leave the tories and their believers to it.
 
It has been a topic up in the air (arf!) for decades, when d!ckhead was London mayor one of his spivs dreamed up the fantasy of reclaiming part of the Thames river and splashing a runway onto that.

If the traffic requires it, then get it built. The thing is, if it's a case of keeping up with Paris, they can throw land at new runways and terminals all they like because they have it. Heathrow gets bigger, so Paris goes bigger, then the onus falls on London capacity again. Was an East west branch of HS2 a possibility to connect another airport? How will the elizabeth line be impacted or expanded?

A common theme recently has been the idea of a 'grown up conversation' - about pensions, about infrastructure, about new laws, about attitudes to growth and how immigration and European cooperation are required. The problem with 'grown up conversations' is that it requires grown ups. Vast swathes of the public are either to thick or uninterested or simply don't care (or all three!) to actually engage with a problem to then make an informed and constructive input to making progressive decisions. That [Poor language removed] gove coughed up that "the people of this country have had enough of experts", he was sort of correct, the people of this country don't want to listen and be informed and involved in decisions, they want to renege upon responsibility and have someone else deal with it. The very same morons that then start moaning about the Nanny state.

This is why we get the politicians we have. Dastardly chancers with their fingers in the till, sex pests, and fraudsters. Someone turns up with some ethical behaviour and the dirt scum press have them as a communist before they step into office.

The knob-heads that are happy with business as usual under tory control are the few that benefit, at the detriment of the rest.

It's easier to complain about knackered infrastructure, decaying hospitals and prisons, rising taxes across the board, services in decline, and there being a lack of hope. You and your children have had your future sold out from beneath you. This is a modern equivalent of serfdom, and now the realities of poverty and shortened lifespans, and managed decline of living standards and health are starting to come to the fore.

Having achieved very little so far and been critiqued for every minute of it, it seems this or any labour government will face an overwhelming uphill battle to deliver any measurable betterment to the public.

Maybe we should all move to Scotland and push for another independence vote en mass, leave the tories and their believers to it.

People go quiet on HS2. £80billion that cost. Still nowhere near finished. Tory legacy fumble.
 
People go quiet on HS2. £80billion that cost. Still nowhere near finished. Tory legacy fumble.
It isn't convenient to ask for accountability and responsibility from the very people they enabled in the first place. The brexit decision has proven this universally. We are in an endless doomloop of finding a boogieman to blame, blaming them, then realising nothing has altered, it being a big waste of time, then starting it all again. It wuz immigrants, it wuz trans, it wuz woke, it wuz weather, it wuz europe, it wuz it wuz it wuz. And a charlatan like boris totters off with millions off the back of impoverishing another generation.

The entitlement of britain has become an illness. 'The sick man of europe'. Sickness is still here, just the links to europe are lessened.
 
It isn't convenient to ask for accountability and responsibility from the very people they enabled in the first place. The brexit decision has proven this universally. We are in an endless doomloop of finding a boogieman to blame, blaming them, then realising nothing has altered, it being a big waste of time, then starting it all again. It wuz immigrants, it wuz trans, it wuz woke, it wuz weather, it wuz europe, it wuz it wuz it wuz. And a charlatan like boris totters off with millions off the back of impoverishing another generation.

The entitlement of britain has become an illness. 'The sick man of europe'. Sickness is still here, just the links to europe are lessened.

Mate of mine keeps sending the new tory insta propaganda bait videos to me. I was like "have you just got amnesia from the past 15 years?"

If you control media outlets you spin the narrative into your favour to make people forget things like if youre a convicted criminal grifting in front of your eyes for example. Just look over the pond.

What you did 5 years ago has zero accountability for today.

People have brain fog about the fact the whole Brexit vote was instigated by "dem immigrants" and controlling boarders. Anyone who says it wasn't is lying.
 
Does Heathrow really need a third runway?

The problem Labour have with issues like this is that much of their core support are going to disagree and much of the people that do agree are not going to vote or back them anyways.

Heathrow needs better terminals before it needs a new runway. Compared to the other hub airports in Europe (never mind worldwide) its shockingly bad.
 
With (London) Luton on my doorstep I rarely bother using other UK airports unless absolutely necessary but I did have to do Heathrow to Edinburgh last year for a work thing straight after a family thing, my cousins live in that area and waxed lyrical about it before dropping me off, I thought it was a right crowded dump of a place.
 
With (London) Luton on my doorstep I rarely bother using other UK airports unless absolutely necessary but I did have to do Heathrow to Edinburgh last year for a work thing straight after a family thing, my cousins live in that area and waxed lyrical about it before dropping me off, I thought it was a right crowded dump of a place.

Did Heathrow - Istanbul Havalimani and back a couple of years ago, it was embarrasing how much better the latter was.

Not flown out of Luton but Stansted and (especially) City are, in their own way, better than Heathrow too.
 
Mate of mine keeps sending the new tory insta propaganda bait videos to me. I was like "have you just got amnesia from the past 15 years?"

If you control media outlets you spin the narrative into your favour to make people forget things like if youre a convicted criminal grifting in front of your eyes for example. Just look over the pond.

What you did 5 years ago has zero accountability for today.

People have brain fog about the fact the whole Brexit vote was instigated by "dem immigrants" and controlling boarders. Anyone who says it wasn't is lying.
As regards NI, no difference at all between the Tory’s and Starmer. Both a shower of Bastards.

Empty words and continue the cover up.
 
Pretty much this.
I’d say the task any government faced after 14 years of managed decline is too big for any one party.
Basically the Tory’s have decimated everything from public services and infrastructure and even the hope and goodwill to the point that it can’t be turned around easily.
What this country needs is a revolution, with the targets being the royals and the corrupt bankers and politicians who have let it get to this state.

Won’t happen though obviously.
And yet you back the Starmer Party that props them up.

Great reasoning.
 
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