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'these people' 'them people'.

It's ignorant at best and something nastier in all likelihood.

Imagine being on benefit and being 'advised' by that feller above. FFS.

Sounds like @Charro has a realistic take on the situation.

Everyone claiming benefits are not sincere.

Naive of you to assume that really but sweet in a way I suppose.

Help the genuine applicants and get the wasters off the dole and into some sort of activity that benefits society, the taxpayers and the individual themselves even if they don't appreciate it.
 
'these people' 'them people'.

It's ignorant at best and something nastier in all likelihood.


Do Kendall and McGovern, the two in the Starmer Gang tasked with rolling this out, not understand that these people have been legitimately assessed by their own doctors and specialists to determine they are UNFIT for work? They come across sounding like all they need to do is give them a good shake and tell them to pull themselves together.

What do you mean "these people" Dave?
 
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Believe tennant farmers manage about a third of farmland who I guess would only be indirectly affected by this.


Not sure how much smaller scale farmers will be affected @orchard might be able to say. A lot of larger farms will manage smaller farms as well with short term leases.

The very worst farmers I have known are the big land owners. Outrageous stories of greed and selfishness. They’re a law unto themselves.

Let’s not pretend anyone suddenly cares about farmers btw. Was the same with fishermen. They’re simply being used by anti labour\ government groups and individuals.
It depends on what one calls a small farmer mate. A small industrial farm would be about 100 acres, quite a bit more if the land's unproductive (eg hill farm), so that would be a mil straight away without adding on a house, equipment and livestock and any diversified assets therein, as it's not only farms that are being hit with this, small/medium business relief has been adjusted too during the budget. I believe a smallholder would have to be over 13 acres to qualify, and would probably max out at circa 50 acres, so providing the home was modest with no diversification, should be okay, although, as with income tax bands, fiscal drag will apply, and probably catch up with them fairly soon. It's the smallholder's claims (where in the main a few small subsidies are claimed and the work is all subbed out) that allow the government to claim that most 'farms' will be unaffected by the legislation.

It's a complex issue to be sure, with lots of nuance, but in my opinion it will (by design) facilitate the corporate colonisation of our countryside, and the government are banking on resentment and crab-in-a-bucket-like attitude to carry through this destructive and unjust policy.

You're right about the far right being all over this, just check out Ash Sarkar's Youtube of last week's rally for Novara Media. She did a really good job as a journalist interviewing farmers but was targeted by Reform(?) members trying to intimidate and discredit her.
 
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