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Daveysgingerlovechild said:
I'll be potentially controversial and I think Pete has a point here.

There's definitely a problem with very wealthy individuals exploiting this tax loophole.

But, it does mean some individuals will get fisted. The owners of traditional smaller family owned farms.

This article does suggest these might be the minority mind...

www.fwi.co.uk

Analysis: Who owns Britain's farmland? - Farmers Weekly

Land is a finite resource, offering relatively stable, long-term growth, hedging and wealth preservation opportunities. But there has been a changing
www.fwi.co.uk www.fwi.co.uk

To add confusion, an older GOVT analysis reckons 54% of agricultural land is owner occupied. This doesn't seem well defined though.

Edit: trying to find a working link to the latter as it us a pdf. Bear with.

Further edit: Aha!

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Believe tennant farmers manage about a third of farmland who I guess would only be indirectly affected by this.

defrafarming.blog.gov.uk

Supporting the tenanted sector in England – The Farming Blog

Tenant farmers are at the heart of the rural economy, managing a third of all farmland in England. To meet our food security and environmental objectives, we must make sure that all farmers, including tenant farmers, can access our schemes
defrafarming.blog.gov.uk defrafarming.blog.gov.uk

Not sure how much smaller scale farmers will be affected @orchard might be able to say. A lot of larger farms will manage smaller farms as well with short term leases.

The very worst farmers I have known are the big land owners. Outrageous stories of greed and selfishness. They’re a law unto themselves.

Let’s not pretend anyone suddenly cares about farmers btw. Was the same with fishermen. They’re simply being used by anti labour\ government groups and individuals.
 
JimmyJeffers said:
Believe tennant farmers manage about a third of farmland who I guess would only be indirectly affected by this.

defrafarming.blog.gov.uk

Supporting the tenanted sector in England – The Farming Blog

Tenant farmers are at the heart of the rural economy, managing a third of all farmland in England. To meet our food security and environmental objectives, we must make sure that all farmers, including tenant farmers, can access our schemes
defrafarming.blog.gov.uk defrafarming.blog.gov.uk

Not sure how much smaller scale farmers will be affected @orchard might be able to say. A lot of larger farms will manage smaller farms as well with short term leases.

The very worst farmers I have known are the big land owners. Outrageous stories of greed and selfishness. They’re a law unto themselves.

Let’s not pretend anyone suddenly cares about farmers btw. Was the same with fishermen. They’re simply being used by anti labour\ government groups and individuals.
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Yes, it's being politicised for sure.

Fundamentally any tax or legislative changes will see winners and losers. As we've seen before there's a block very skilled at exploiting said issues, when it suits.

Lik with the fishing industry/Brexit its usually the ones at the bottom of the pile getting the less great deal and will no doubt end up with a less great deal if the suddenly 'interested' parties get their way.
 
peteblue said:
Dear God, is that really your level of understanding of farming, Lords and Ladies, titled gentry. Now in here, everyone and his dog agrees that the super rich should be taxed and certainly I’ve mentioned this many times. However this tax will hit all the wrong people, those who own and directly farm, as their families did before, and who own farms with acreage adding up to a few hundred acres. Reeves and co have got this completely wrong in terms of numbers affected and the destruction that will follow. Most farms will fall into this tax trap. If it was set at say £20-25million and above it would catch the very people you are concerned about, but they have completely screwed this up. Just ask yourself this, were the farmers demonstrating in Wales, London etc Lords and Ladies, Titled gentry or the super rich?. It’s hitting the wrong people and is another botch job……
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We heard from Clarkson, Farage, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Minette Batters, James Dyson and Victoria Vyvyan about as the voices for 'hard hit farmers'

Perhaps the protests need a shift in approach.
 
Jebus_lives said:
We heard from Clarkson, Farage, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Minette Batters, James Dyson and Victoria Vyvyan about as the voices for 'hard hit farmers'

Perhaps the protests need a shift in approach.
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Some horrible people on that list who have repeatedly displayed selfish and toxic behaviour.
I’d be questioning my position given my teammates.
 
Jebus_lives said:
We heard from Clarkson, Farage, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Minette Batters, James Dyson and Victoria Vyvyan about as the voices for 'hard hit farmers'

Perhaps the protests need a shift in approach.
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Totally agree, just speak to the generational farmers whose whole lives have been spent in farming…..
 
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