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[StDomingosGringo]

No my friend, I shall be all over this lot on a daily basis……

Why do you put a line of full stops in every post Pete? Do you think people are hanging on your words or is it just the shakes always kick in then?

Personally I hope you keep posting in here daily. A coalition of Kemi & Farage will sort things out? Comedy gold right there.

 

[Rita_Poon]

No my friend, I shall be all over this lot on a daily basis……

Oh good, the covid inquiry is progressing, there's the chris pincher farrago to come, frank hester's donations to realise, and your best bud ever (boris) jetting off to chomp on trumps ball sack to laugh at.

You wait your 4.5 years, I'll be here to pillory you and your despicable kind every minute of the way. Chin chin old bean...

 

[peteblue]

Why do you put a line of full stops in every post Pete? Do you think people are hanging on your words or is it just the shakes always kick in then?

Personally I hope you keep posting in here daily. A coalition of Kemi & Farage will sort things out? Comedy gold right there.

It’s to suggest continuance of the debate...but don’t tell anyone………

 

[peteblue]

Oh good, the covid inquiry is progressing, there's the chris pincher farrago to come, frank hester's donations to realise, and your best bud ever (boris) jetting off to chomp on trumps ball sack to laugh at.

You wait your 4.5 years, I'll be here to pillory you and your despicable kind every minute of the way. Chin chin old bean...

Don’t forget the Chinese…..

 

[Rita_Poon]

Don’t forget the Chinese…..

Thought it was a curry for beergate?

 

[JimmyJeffers]

If only people and the press had been as scrutinising of the tories the last 10-15 years instead of blowing smoke up the hoops of horrible people like Boris Johnson, then maybe the country wouldn’t be such a bitter, miserable, far right infested shithole.

 

[cronullasharks]

I'm just going to speak anecdotally here on farming but in Australia they (I'll clarify not all obviously but a lot, a few I know personally) are always the first to cry poor if we have a season of drought/flood but their kids all seem to go to the most expensive private schools in Sydney (rugby union and rowing toffs). They ignore all environmental laws and clear trees on an industrial scale and shoot/trap any native animal that may cost them a dollar - wombats for digging holes, eagles for taking lambs, roos and emus for wrecking fences etc etc. All seem have multiple top of the line land cruiser utes and the wife has the luxury car as well no doubt all written off on tax.

So if your lot are anything like ours, pay up and shut up.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I'm just going to speak anecdotally here on farming but in Australia they (I'll clarify not all obviously but a lot, a few I know personally) are always the first to cry poor if we have a season of drought/flood but their kids all seem to go to the most expensive private schools in Sydney (rugby and rowing toffs). They ignore all environmental laws and clear trees on an industrial scale and shoot/trap any native animal that may cost them a dollar - wombats for digging holes, eagles for taking lambs, roos and emus for wrecking fences etc etc. All seem have multiple top of the line land cruiser utes and the wife has the luxury car as well no doubt all written off on tax.

So if your lot are anything like ours, pay up and shut up.

Quite. Self serving tories every stinking one of em. The landed gentry.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I'm just going to speak anecdotally here on farming but in Australia they (I'll clarify not all obviously but a lot, a few I know personally) are always the first to cry poor if we have a season of drought/flood but their kids all seem to go to the most expensive private schools in Sydney (rugby union and rowing toffs). They ignore all environmental laws and clear trees on an industrial scale and shoot/trap any native animal that may cost them a dollar - wombats for digging holes, eagles for taking lambs, roos and emus for wrecking fences etc etc. All seem have multiple top of the line land cruiser utes and the wife has the luxury car as well no doubt all written off on tax.

So if your lot are anything like ours, pay up and shut up.

Jeff Bezos first founding principle when running Aazon if the anecdotal evidence is at odds with the data, its the anecdotal that is normally correct.

 

[degsy]

He is correct though,. 14 years of devastation by the tories and all these whoppers now crying after a few months of trying to sort the mess out

I still think there's a good chance that the cure will be worse than the disease.

You never know though, 4yrs on it might be all rosy and Labour will get re-elected - but Starmer won't be there

 

[cronullasharks]

Jeff Bezos first founding principle when running Aazon if the anecdotal evidence is at odds with the data, its the anecdotal that is normally correct.

First thought there was the xg and stats dweebs that don't seem to watch the game

 

[StDomingosGringo]

It’s to suggest continuance of the debate...but don’t tell anyone………

It’s a forum Pete. Continuation of debate is kind of the point.

You might find answering responses or putting relevant points forward for debate a better tactic.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I still think there's a good chance that the cure will be worse than the disease.

You never know though, 4yrs on it might be all rosy and Labour will get re-elected - but Starmer won't be there

Bold moves made early, they're banking (haha) on providing good somewhere along the line to point at and say "see, here's the positive you asked for and voted for".

14 years of dereliction and decay was never turn-roundable instantly. The encyclopedia of harm doled out by cameron, may, boris, truss and sunak has to be faced. I'm glad the doctors strikes have been cleared, the minimum wage is up, the nhs is being priorities AND waiting lists targeted, closer ties with a europe we need and needs us, and no interest in absconding from the responsibility to the european court of human rights.

It was never going to be easy. Elite schools, tax avoiding big business, and landed gentry targeted. Oh and a means tested winter fuel allowance introduced that has pushed a lot of pensioners into applying for and receiving more benefit they were always due.

But but but, free glasses and the first serving UK PM to see in remembrance Sunday in Paris since big winny though.

Progress. And a shape of things to come. When the country is able to, the two child credit fiasco will be dealt with. That the farage's and clarkson's of the uk* are crying loudest only reinforces that good is being done.

 

[Xizor]

How did you not see the open goal of asking him to button it for a while?

I was using the post to make my mandated one serious point per day.

Pete's team took one hell of an electoral blooter to the political knackers a few months ago and if he thinks spreading Telegraph hit pieces and his own doom-laden speculation around might spread a bit of cold water on the ongoing jubilations then let him just carry on amusing nobody but himself, I doubt any hardcore Tory voters were reading Owen Jones articles in 2011 thinking "Oh wow this guy's right, maybe we should actually care about people".

It's also possible that he's right, nothing is guaranteed in politics and no party stays in power forever in a fair democracy. But it's irrelevant because Labour have the power now and it's a bit pointless spending a whole political term worrying about whether you'll get to enjoy another one. The Tories have been playing that game - everything was a cynical, calculated move designed to win another election - and look at their lamentations now, 14 years in No 10 without any major legislative achievements to point at*, no coherent direction of travel and nothing but regrets from all the leadership wannabes that "we weren't Conservative enough".

* Except same sex marriage of course, which is something that the Tory government passed at most of their own MPs' displeasure.

 

[Blue 1]

I was using the post to make my mandated one serious point per day.

Pete's team took one hell of an electoral blooter to the political knackers a few months ago and if he thinks spreading Telegraph hit pieces and his own doom-laden speculation around might spread a bit of cold water on the ongoing jubilations then let him just carry on amusing nobody but himself, I doubt any hardcore Tory voters were reading Owen Jones articles in 2011 thinking "Oh wow this guy's right, maybe we should actually care about people".

It's also possible that he's right, nothing is guaranteed in politics and no party stays in power forever in a fair democracy. But it's irrelevant because Labour have the power now and it's a bit pointless spending a whole political term worrying about whether you'll get to enjoy another one. The Tories have been playing that game - everything was a cynical, calculated move designed to win another election - and look at their lamentations now, 14 years in No 10 without any major legislative achievements to point at*, no coherent direction of travel and nothing but regrets from all the leadership wannabes that "we weren't Conservative enough".

* Except same sex marriage of course, which is something that the Tory government passed at most of their own MPs' displeasure.

They did damage the welfare state and the NHS probably beyond repair, which is most Torys' wet dream. Give them some credit. Oh, and they gave us Brexit *slow handclap*.