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[NorthernBlue]

But they have to work right hard...harder than EVERYONE else and they are more important than nurses, teachers and traffic wardens..plus theybhave to put hanf up cow bum...

And if they can’t pass on their farms to family for free then we will all starve to death and it’ll be Labours fault won’t it.

 

[Harryflashman]

But they have to work right hard...harder than EVERYONE else and they are more important than nurses, teachers and traffic wardens..plus theybhave to put hanf up cow bum...

I sort of get that there is an argument the idea farming should be a special case but when people like clakson are doing it to circumvent the system it’s going to lead to change . If you’re a farmer be angry at the likes of him .

It’s also mad hearing people with millions of pounds worth of property and assets bemoaning the system when anyone else with a tenth of their assets is paying inheritance tax .

 

[JimmyJeffers]

So when the tories are in power, everything wrong with the country is down to Labour, Ukraine, Covid and Labour and when Labour are in power, everything that is wrong is down to Labour.
Think I’m getting the hang of this.

 

[Harryflashman]

So when the tories are in power, everything wrong with the country is down to Labour, Ukraine, Covid and Labour and when Labour are in power, everything that is wrong is down to Labour.
Think I’m getting the hang of this.

Had no clue Laura kuennesburg was a blue

 

[Alan Whittle]

Huge pub in a large conurbation that’s part of Amber Taverns, a pub group with a turnover of over £95million and an Operating profit of over £15million. Not quite an equal comparison….

+ a lot of that will be coming via the local Cash+Carry. Paying Brewers prices that would be closed in a week. Whether pubs are part of a smallish chain like Amber Taverns, a monster like Stonegate or a single operator, the same objectives apply and they’re all cost driven.
The consumption of draft beer in the on trade has been in free fall since 1970. The decline in manual labour, the greater awareness of health issues, the impact of wines and spirits, greater leisure choice, the smoking ban have all had a massive impact.
Yet every time the budget comes around Pubs get a special pleading, often it’s heard (repeated freezing of beer duty for example). We are told repeatedly that pubs are a part of the community, so they are; like the NHS, buses, disabled people, working people, carers and more. They are not set in aspic. The triple lock has to stay funded, income tax band unfreezing needs to be funded. Pubs, fabulous an institution though they are, would not be top of my priority list.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Have Labour killed the pub trade now as well?

 

[Alan Whittle]

Have Labour killed the pub trade now as well?

To be fair to @peteblue he didn’t say that and I don’t think that’s what he meant. This more of a Labour whack a mole for him to enjoy after all the years of being on the defensive with Boris & the boys.

 

[bluelife]

Pubs are dying because by and large, the country has changed habits. People stay at home because there is an abundance of entertainment on TVs now, and education on the harms of alcohol are having an impact. For too long bad businesses have been propped up by governments just because they are a pub. The market is still strong enough for many to remain open, just let somebody better at running business take over your pub.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

To be fair to @peteblue he didn’t say that and I don’t think that’s what he meant. This more of a Labour whack a mole for him to enjoy after all the years of being on the defensive with Boris & the boys.

Oh, I wasn't necessarily aiming that at Pete, I just checked in and saw a debate about pubs.

 

[JP5]

Pubs are dying because by and large, the country has changed habits. People stay at home because there is an abundance of entertainment on TVs now, and education on the harms of alcohol are having an impact. For too long bad businesses have been propped up by governments just because they are a pub. The market is still strong enough for many to remain open, just let somebody better at running business take over your pub.

WFH hasn’t helped either.

 

[bluestevon]

It's weird because Brexit cheerleaders spent years telling all who would listen that the incoming massive hit to GDP was all worthwhile if it meant a return of sovereignty. And yet now that the pinch they caused has hit them they're whinging about it, totally deaf to how other people might be suffering due to years of Tory misrule.

Maybe instead of giving it the "Won't someone think of my poor staff" act try looking in the mirror and accepting a huge chunk of the responsibility for what they're going through, plus a bit of acceptance that they're not remotely alone.

You know that across Europe similar issues are being faced?

 

[bluestevon]

Where is your pub ? City, Town or Village.

A quick average price check suggests that even in the North East, which tends to be cheaper, the price you are paying is a special deal or loss leader product…..

North East average prices:-

Staropramen
£4.64
Cruzcampo
£4.56
Heineken
£4.50
Stella Artois
£4.29

What the hell has happened in the past 11 years to pricing....

 

[Thomasc]

Just heard Martin Lewis on the WFA payment.

No getting around it, they’ve dropped a proper bollock on this.

It needed more thought.

 

[Harryflashman]

Just seen a video of a ‘shepherdess’ in tears about how the budget is completely unfair . A quick google puts her 680 acre farm on the Isle of Bute at around £10m and she’s set the world record for most expensive sheepdog ever sold (approx £19k) . It’s tough to muster too much sympathy to be honest .

 

[Xizor]

You know that across Europe similar issues are being faced?

What, illiberal anti-EU nuts getting egg on their faces? Good.