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[COYBL25]

My first guesstimate was 8p but now a bit less than yours maybe 12/15

changes in hours feels like the early indicator the end isn’t far away .

I think most will rise this year maybe a little less than @peteblue ‘s suggestion . There are certainly a few bars I can think of that are currently over charging that might have to bite it rather than pass it on .

It was shut for three months earlier on in the year, as the old landlady handed the keys back, due to not being able to make it work.

It’s tragic.

 

[larrygobfiend]

It’s gonna be a bit harsh on the folk who’ve learned a new skill in the workplace to earn a few extra quid, only to be caught up by the minimum wage. It’s already happened in my place and it doesn’t half create a toxic work environment.

 

[peteblue]

If one of my locals follows this pattern, it’ll take the price of a pint, which currently stands at a fiver, to close to 6 quid, which will see it shut.

It’s already opening on reduced hours - shutting at 9pm or earlier during the week and 10.30pm Friday / Saturday.

Pre pandemic it was open from 12.00 - 12.00 and doing a healthy trade.

It’s a Punch pub too, so undoubtedly the rises will be bigger.

The only reason it’s still open as far as I can see, is that the licensee is sub letting the living quarters above the pub on the sly.

It’s going to be a bloodbath for the pub industry…..

 

[PhilM]

If one of my locals follows this pattern, it’ll take the price of a pint, which currently stands at a fiver, to close to 6 quid, which will see it shut.

It’s already opening on reduced hours - shutting at 9pm or earlier during the week and 10.30pm Friday / Saturday.

Pre pandemic it was open from 12.00 - 12.00 and doing a healthy trade.

It’s a Punch pub too, so undoubtedly the rises will be bigger.

The only reason it’s still open as far as I can see, is that the licensee is sub letting the living quarters above the pub on the sly.

If it's the pub that I think it is, I ain't surprised: it's never been the same in the past few years compared to when I drank in there fairly regularly about a decade ago.

 

[peteblue]

It was shut for three months earlier on in the year, as the old landlady handed the keys back, due to not being able to make it work.

It’s tragic.

Tenants running tied houses will really suffer as they can’t even shop around for different suppliers and pay more for beer than freehold premises. We bought our pub for cash six years ago and put in additional large sums of money to do it up and maintain it, I wouldn’t like to even imagine the number of unpaid hours we’ve put in and have never withdrawn a single penny from the pub, I don’t even get the odd free pint. Only the staff get paid, but their hours will now be cut…it really is tragic what she’s doing to hospitality…..

 

[PhilM]

Tenants running tied houses will really suffer as they can’t even shop around for different suppliers and pay more for beer than freehold premises. We bought our pub for cash six years ago and put in additional large sums of money to do it up and maintain it, I wouldn’t like to even imagine the number of unpaid hours we’ve put in and have never withdrawn a single penny from the pub, I don’t even get the odd free pint. Only the staff get paid, but their hours will now be cut…it really is tragic what she’s doing to hospitality…..

It ain't just hospitality, although the duty aspect is industry specific. They know they can't be seeing to making working people pay, but...

... it'll be working people who suffer, as we all know that many businesses can't or won't swallow the extra cost involved with this NI rise.

 

[peteblue]

It ain't just hospitality, although the duty aspect is industry specific. They know they can't be seeing to making working people pay, but...

... it'll be working people who suffer, as we all know that many businesses can't or won't swallow the extra cost involved with this NI rise.

Indeed…

 

[Tommy.]

Ah, this is one of those moments when "Socialist Pete" pops up and all past transgressions are forgiven.

 

[Xizor]

It's weird because Brexit cheerleaders spent years telling all who would listen that the incoming massive hit to GDP was all worthwhile if it meant a return of sovereignty. And yet now that the pinch they caused has hit them they're whinging about it, totally deaf to how other people might be suffering due to years of Tory misrule.

Maybe instead of giving it the "Won't someone think of my poor staff" act try looking in the mirror and accepting a huge chunk of the responsibility for what they're going through, plus a bit of acceptance that they're not remotely alone.

 

[Tommy.]

It's weird because Brexit cheerleaders spent years telling all who would listen that the incoming massive hit to GDP was all worthwhile if it meant a return of sovereignty. And yet now that the pinch they caused has hit them they're whinging about it, totally deaf to how other people might be suffering due to years of Tory misrule.

Maybe instead of giving it the "Won't someone think of my poor staff" act try looking in the mirror and accepting a huge chunk of the responsibility for what they're going through, plus a bit of acceptance that they're not remotely alone.

 

[Thomasc]

It’s going to be a bloodbath for the pub industry…..

Depends on the pub doesn’t it surely.

My local is absolutely thriving. I pay £3.50 for a pint of Cruzcampo, it’s always busy and doesn’t even do food.

Hard to imagine any pub shifting the same volume of drinks as these are will struggle. They might make a slightly less bit of profit a year but that’s the price we all individually have to pay for 14 years of Tory rule.

Struggling pubs might go under. But the reality is that they were probably likely to go under at some point anyway due to a natural decline in people’s habits and other deciding factors.

 

[peteblue]

It's weird because Brexit cheerleaders spent years telling all who would listen that the incoming massive hit to GDP was all worthwhile if it meant a return of sovereignty. And yet now that the pinch they caused has hit them they're whinging about it, totally deaf to how other people might be suffering due to years of Tory misrule.

Maybe instead of giving it the "Won't someone think of my poor staff" act try looking in the mirror and accepting a huge chunk of the responsibility for what they're going through, plus a bit of acceptance that they're not remotely alone.

Blame Brexit, Tories, the weather, anyone or anything except those you put in power. I would suggest that maybe you look in the mirror…..

 

[Tommy.]

 

[Harryflashman]

Depends on the pub doesn’t it surely.

My local is absolutely thriving. I pay £3.50 for a pint of Cruzcampo, it’s always busy and doesn’t even do food.

Hard to imagine any pub shifting the same volume of drinks as these are will struggle. They might make a slightly less bit of profit a year but that’s the price we all individually have to pay for 14 years of Tory rule.

Struggling pubs might go under. But the reality is that they were probably likely to go under at some point anyway due to a natural decline in people’s habits and other deciding factors.

Ive said it before but i think there a been a real change in what people want from pubs post Covid , even those who never drank at home did so during lockdowns. Couple that with the tightening of belts and to an extent the changes in drinking culture the market is having to adapt .

Cheap bars , and I don’t mean that in a derogatory fashion will survive. Those that provide great service and a good product , so will they and to an extent a lot of the high end as all these pubs /bars retain their market . The ones coasting in the middle or overcharging whilst simply not delivering on the basics are in trouble and we’ve seen plenty close .

Ultimately we’ll see price rises , we’ve seen a few and a lot jumped on the bandwagon to profiteer well they’re going to find it hard to keep doing that . Others customers will be impacted but hopefully understand why . I also think it’s restaurants who really took the hit the last few years , if you had a choice between one meal a month or 4 nights in the pub a lot of people choose the pub and I think it’s reflected in the industry .

 

[peteblue]

Depends on the pub doesn’t it surely.

My local is absolutely thriving. I pay £3.50 for a pint of Cruzcampo, it’s always busy and doesn’t even do food.

Hard to imagine any pub shifting the same volume of drinks as these are will struggle. They might make a slightly less bit of profit a year but that’s the price we all individually have to pay for 14 years of Tory rule.

Struggling pubs might go under. But the reality is that they were probably likely to go under at some point anyway due to a natural decline in people’s habits and other deciding factors.

Where is your pub ? City, Town or Village.

A quick average price check suggests that even in the North East, which tends to be cheaper, the price you are paying is a special deal or loss leader product…..

North East average prices:-

Staropramen
£4.64
Cruzcampo
£4.56
Heineken
£4.50
Stella Artois
£4.29