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[Walken]

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I always find this hilarious. Basically, anyone not a 'comrade' of Corbyn's and dares to be right of Lenin is a 'Blairite' and doomed to the same failure as he. There's no possible way they could be different.

It'd be like me saying Corbyn is definitely, absolutely going to be the exact same as Stalin.

Ludicrous stuff.

You can't really complain about the extremes of being called a blairite, with the language you've used to those other direction

 

[magicjuan]

Hideous bint. True colours popped out there.

 

[magicjuan]

No anti semitism though was Michael Foot a blues fan too?
A Donkey Jacket is the least of Labour parties concerns with Corbyn......

You're better than that Joe, you know what I'm talking about, but if you don't want to see it you won't see it.

 

[Blues Harp]

I'm not sure if you are familiar with the works of Nikos Poulantzas who writes eloquently on this area?

Both your point and the alternative viewpoint can be true at the same time. To me there is little doubt that there is a distrust of Corbyn as PM and there is some coordination of this. You only need to see the aftermath of events like Hillsborough to see the ruling elite can act in a very cohesive and disciplined way when it chooses.

However it's rarely as simple more broadly than that. While the media are broadly antipathetic towards Corbyn it's not universal. I think the Brexit debacle is also quite demonstrative of an elite (in so far as one exists) actually finds it very difficult to hold a united viewpoint on most things and you have a range of competing interests. There is no doubt, sections (albeit minority sections) that I believe feel a Labour (if not a Corbyn) might provide some way out of this mess.

I don't think this is singularly a wrecking operation. I'm not sure the world works in such a machiavellian way. The Labour Party to me is suffering from the case that it is 2 parties in 1 currently. Once you move beyond the accusations of anti-semitism, war mongering, privatisations, marxism or anything els that either side lob at each other the core difficulty is you have 2 different philosophies at the heart of the party. Eventually a section of those in one section of the party have decided they wish to leave. Good luck to them.

As usual you put forward a reasoned argument....the only thing is that if these 7 people who were elected on a Labour party ticket now leave the party, shouldn't they have the common decency to stand for their "independent beliefs" (whatever they are) in a by election, instead of staying as mps in the commons under the banner of a party they supposedly despise? Bit hypocritical imo

 

[DanEFC92]

You're better than that Joe, you know what I'm talking about, but if you don't want to see it you won't see it.

Have you been in the EU in or out thread??

 

[Walken]

A party that once stood for something, but now go against it and suffer the consequences.

Maybe Corbyn just wants a full raft of antisemetics running round in red

You just need to call him a Czech spy to complete my dailymail bingo card

 

[magicjuan]

Have you been in the EU in or out thread??

Often. Not today. Any reason?

 

[Walken]

Everything that little turd says is foolish. He's an embarrassment.

Ahh the Joey tactic

 

[Blues Harp]

You just need to call him a Czech spy to complete my dailymail bingo card

Winner!!!! Brilliant lol

 

[nsno-chris]

You just need to call him a Czech spy to complete my dailymail bingo card

Nah just the anti-semite will do, may as well deal in facts

 

[davek]

You can see the integrity on offer he from this lot...

 

[Blues Harp]

Nah just the anti-semite will do, may as well deal in facts

What "facts" are they mate? Against whom is he personally as you say "anti semitic?"

 

[Joey66]

You're better than that Joe, you know what I'm talking about, but if you don't want to see it you won't see it.

I am only putting across what every polictical TV show says about Corbyn it's my opinion of him he is not fit to be an opposition leader - time will tell - I may be proved wrong, but I doubt it!

 

[Joey66]

You can't really complain about the extremes of being called a blairite, with the language you've used to those other direction
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Blair has not been there for sometime now - Brown was a better moral PM imo the crash in 2008 was not Labours fault, but the Tories latched on to it to gain power!
There record is disgusting, and yet the Labour Party could only cut the majority my reason is Corbyn and momentum being the problem like many Labour voters not just me won't vote for him ......

 

[Joey66]

Have you been in the EU in or out thread??

That's your opinion- I have mine on Brexit , but stop the myth that Labour voters turned out in force outside the Westminster Bubble to vote Out!