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[Eggs]

Strange way of paraphrashing party democracy, don't you think?

...bullying and threatening those who disagree is hardly democracy in a party that have values.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

The saddening thing here is that I agree with a lot of what they are saying, but totally, completely don't trust their motives.

By words alone, they are 100% spot on about Corbyn and the current state of Labour.

Aye, but surely they should work for change internally within the Labour Party, rather than splintering and vanishing into the political bondu?

 

[Tubey]

Kinell

His ideology and the very core of his base is what it is.

I see the point in pretending it doesn't exist, because of the negative connotations of Marxism in the UK but... it is what it is, what can I say.

 

[Tubey]

Aye, but surely they should work for change internally within the Labour Party, rather than splintering and vanishing into the political bondu?

Would have preferred it, but there's one big problem with that - the rule change by Ed Milliband in the leadership elections.

The party has been totally hijacked by Momentum, so that even if Corbyn left, they'd elect any and all hard left candidate from here on in.

Ed Milliband destroyed Labour as surely as Cameron destroyed the Tories with the referendum.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Would have preferred it, but there's one big problem with that - the rule change by Ed Milliband in the leadership elections.

The party has been totally hijacked by Momentum, so that even if Corbyn left, they'd elect any and all hard left candidate from here on in.

Ed Milliband destroyed Labour as surely as Cameron destroyed the Tories with the referendum.

Christ. The tories must be pissing themselves. Is there no end to this madness?

 

[nsno-chris]

Momentum are deselecting candidates in areas, it’s happened in Merseyside. Coupled with that you then have those little face covered bellends in ANTIFA causing chaos and promoting violence against anyone who dare speak up against Grand Leader Corbyn

The party is a mess and has set the the opposition back years

 

[Walken]

Yeah but ever so slightly misappropriated eh?

Strange for you this, you normally deal in facts.

 

[peteblue]

Their current policies are due to Corbyn being encumbered by the PLP and its' rules. His overall aim and that of his supporters is obvious - a purge of centrist, moderating views with a very obvious political end goal.

He's getting his way. Let's see how it ends up for him, as I'm totally convinced that barring a miracle they'd be totally unelectable. But Corbyn on the campaign trail is a master, so who knows.

That said I really don't understand how people can't see Corbyn as extreme left in the context of modern politics. He very obviously is.

He was good once, against a robot in the shape of May, during good weather and the backing of students and the youth...

 

[neil999]

Would have preferred it, but there's one big problem with that - the rule change by Ed Milliband in the leadership elections.

The party has been totally hijacked by Momentum, so that even if Corbyn left, they'd elect any and all hard left candidate from here on in.

Ed Milliband destroyed Labour as surely as Cameron destroyed the Tories with the referendum.

possibly not.. as there still needs to be enough labour mps to put forward a candidate and i think when corbyn got put forward he only got there with mps wanting a broader a field, which they wouldnt do next time..

obviously the only chance of this is if corbyn resigns, which wont happen

 

[peteblue]

I think Kinnock would have been seen as of the "extreme left" in today's standards, mate.

I think kinnock would appear Tory compared to Corbyn and McDonnell........

 

[Walken]

Their current policies are due to Corbyn being encumbered by the PLP and its' rules. His overall aim and that of his supporters is obvious - a purge of centrist, moderating views with a very obvious political end goal.

He's getting his way. Let's see how it ends up for him, as I'm totally convinced that barring a miracle they'd be totally unelectable. But Corbyn on the campaign trail is a master, so who knows.

That said I really don't understand how people can't see Corbyn as extreme left in the context of modern politics. He very obviously is.

You are playing a guessing game here based on your perception of personalities, there is no basis to it other than an early assumption you have made which has now become dogma to you

 

[Harryflashman]

Momentum are deselecting candidates in areas, it’s happened in Merseyside. Coupled with that you then have those little face covered bellends in ANTIFA causing chaos and promoting violence against anyone who dare speak up against Grand Leader Corbyn

The party is a mess and has set the the opposition back years

Well the constituency party apparently wanted to deselect Berger or at least vote on it , I would seem they were right in assuming their mp didn’t have any loyalty to the party and was if anything working against it . Perhaps rather than being an anti-Semitic decision it might have been they were spot on in their assessment .

 

[Tubey]

You are playing a guessing game here based on your perception of personalities, there is no basis to it other than an early assumption you have made which has now become dogma to you

Theres plenty of basis, like Corbyn and Galloway conspiring to tear down Maastricht. He is staunchly anti-EU but couldn't campaign for Brexit due to party policy.

That is cast iron fact. It is how Labour works.

 

[peteblue]

Christ. The tories must be pissing themselves. Is there no end to this madness?

Not while Corbyn leads the party.....

 

[tsubaki]

Momentum are deselecting candidates in areas, it’s happened in Merseyside. Coupled with that you then have those little face covered bellends in ANTIFA causing chaos and promoting violence against anyone who dare speak up against Grand Leader Corbyn

The party is a mess and has set the the opposition back years

There have been no deselections, by Momentum or anyone else.