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Labour need to not fall into SNP trap again. Totally pointless no matter the outcome it will make no difference so in effect is a bit of a waste of time
As commons could be discussing meaningful things that actually make a difference people in the UK. It’s ok for the SNP and indeed Wales Northern Ireland they have their own parliament unlike England, where they can discuss meaningful things that make a difference so why take up time in the commons on this navel gazing.

 
Labour need to not fall into SNP trap again. Totally pointless no matter the outcome it will make no difference so in effect is a bit of a waste of time
As commons could be discussing meaningful things that actually make a difference people in the UK. It’s ok for the SNP and indeed Wales Northern Ireland they have their own parliament unlike England, where they can discuss meaningful things that make a difference so why take up time in the commons on this navel gazing.


This is one of those rare occasions where it could actually help the government get out of a hole it’s dug for itself, and allow them to back away from the blank cheque that Sunak gave Netanyahu.
 
Fantastic for the fox. Crucial policy that will really make a difference.

But wait, they now have two policies -- there's also going to be some sort of citizen assembly that's bound to help provide feedback to the party that's only just nuked any semblance of democracy it had. Nice one.
 
Commented yesterday on a different thread about the lack of choice in our politics, that all we have is a choice between the right and the far right but then watched this video. If what this guy is saying is true with regard to citizen assemblies, UK politics is about to be given the biggest shake up ever.

I'm no political academic but isn't this what socialism is all about. I thought in some respects that Starmer was on the same ground as theresa may and kenny clark but then he comes up with this. Might have to re think my views. Bonkers this country right now!
 
Commented yesterday on a different thread about the lack of choice in our politics, that all we have is a choice between the right and the far right but then watched this video. If what this guy is saying is true with regard to citizen assemblies, UK politics is about to be given the biggest shake up ever.

I'm no political academic but isn't this what socialism is all about. I thought in some respects that Starmer was on the same ground as theresa may and kenny clark but then he comes up with this. Might have to re think my views. Bonkers this country right now!


It isn't what socialism is all about. The people who will organize these things (the assemblies) will organize them in such a way to get what they want out of them; that is what they know and what they are doing already in Labour.

The only way you would ever be able to do it fairly is to do something similar to the jury system - for arguments sake give every person on the electoral register (so every British citizen above voting age) a number between 1 and 999. An issue would arise and an assembly called, they'd pick a number from 1 to 999 and everyone with that number would be part of the assembly and assess, investigate and decide.
 
It isn't what socialism is all about. The people who will organize these things (the assemblies) will organize them in such a way to get what they want out of them; that is what they know and what they are doing already in Labour.

The only way you would ever be able to do it fairly is to do something similar to the jury system - for arguments sake give every person on the electoral register (so every British citizen above voting age) a number between 1 and 999. An issue would arise and an assembly called, they'd pick a number from 1 to 999 and everyone with that number would be part of the assembly and assess, investigate and decide.
It has to be that or as you suggest, money will find a way to corrupt it.
 
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