The "In Defence of Allardyce Thread "

[LEONARD]

Under Koeman, I was angry and frustrated.

Under F.S. I am bored and resigned to mediocrity, so progress of sorts.

 

[kev]

SORRY, CAN'T FIND ANYTHING IN HIS DEFENCE.

 

[orly]

..I didn’t particularly want him. I didn’t particularly not want him. I do think managerial appointments are lots to do with right person, right place, right time.

He’s inherited a squad that lacks quality and balance. I thought he did terrific getting us to 27 points by Christmas. I honestly don’t know if any other coach could’ve done better. I really don’t know if it was ‘bounce’ factor, luck, tactical nous or his man management that had such an immediate impact in terms of points. Whatever it was it was extremely timely.

The quality of performance remains poor but i’m not certain anybody could get a tune out of this group. I like Alkardyce’s interviews, he talks well as far as i’m concerned. The challenge now is to keep eeking out results. We need to see his/Walsh’s signings making a difference.

He’s done ok but he needs to do ok for the rest of the season.

He hardly did it on his own.

The challenge now is to keep eeking out results.

He's got 3 wins from 12 games, so let us know when this bit starts

The quality of performance remains poor but i’m not certain anybody could get a tune out of this group

Less points per game than Unsworth, Koeman, Martinez etc etc

Good to see you've scaled it back from 'Miracle Worker'

 

[Efctheblue123]

In Sam’s defence this team is garbage and I doubt any manager would do much better. He is a solid coach with a proven track record of keeping teams stable, last few performances have been crap and he has to take responsibility for that, he was the best option at the time of Southampton 4-1 Everton and we have to stick with him until the end of the season if I’m honest!

 

[thebluenosebolt]

But it was fantastic and phenomenal the way we played great possession football, and with success our our managers left, but ok, thats football!

However, we are trying to recover from selling off Lukaku, Barkley and Stones, arguably the best spine of a team we have had in recent years. Any team would struggle having that dismantled so quickly, and go figure we are struggling...

More to do with coleman missing than Stones...he was a complete liability. Agreed on Lukaku tho

 

[bluestevon]

He hardly did it on his own.



He's got 3 wins from 12 games, so let us know when this bit starts




Less points per game than Unsworth, Koeman, Martinez etc etc

Good to see you've scaled it back from 'Miracle Worker'

First 6 games - 3 wins 3 draws 0 losses scored 7 conceded 2.
Next 5 games 1 draw 4 losses (1 a cup game) scored 3 conceded 11.

Unsworths 6 'proper' games in charge (not counting a comp we where already almost out of in the EL)

Played 6, won 2, drew 1, lost 3 (1 a cup game) scored 11 conceded 12

Look at those stats, and think about what the age old adage is about teams that get relegated ('they don't score enough goals')

we are currently scoring less than a goal a game under Allardyce, that figure over the last 6 games is actually 1 goal every 2 games. over his tenure, we have conceded an average of about 1.2 goals per game, over the last 5 games that figure is over 2 goals a game.

Next up is a Leicester who haven't conceded in the last 3 and have Vardy in great form, after that we get to go away to Arsenal and say hello to Aubamayang.

so pretty sure those point returns, goals scored and conceded figures are gonna look a hell of a lot worse in a couple of weeks.

 

[orly]

First 6 games - 3 wins 3 draws 0 losses scored 7 conceded 2.
Next 5 games 1 draw 4 losses (1 a cup game) scored 3 conceded 11.

Unsworths 6 'proper' games in charge (not counting a comp we where already almost out of in the EL)

Played 6, won 2, drew 1, lost 3 (1 a cup game) scored 11 conceded 12

Look at those stats, and think about what the age old adage is about teams that get relegated ('they don't score enough goals')

we are currently scoring less than a goal a game under Allardyce, that figure over the last 6 games is actually 1 goal every 2 games. over his tenure, we have conceded an average of about 1.2 goals per game, over the last 5 games that figure is over 2 goals a game.

Next up is a Leicester who haven't conceded in the last 3 and have Vardy in great form, after that we get to go away to Arsenal and say hello to Aubamayang.

so pretty sure those point returns, goals scored and conceded figures are gonna look a hell of a lot worse in a couple of weeks.

And his great failures will be accepted, at last, by everyone. The guy is massive crooked fraud; two points from WBA twice and Bournemouth has just highlighted it a little more.

 

[4737carlin]

Under Koeman, I was angry and frustrated.

Under F.S. I am bored and resigned to mediocrity, so progress of sorts.

I can agree on this however under Sam i dont think we will go down, in fact im certain we wont, but under the last two idiots im certain we would of gone, its terrible we have found ourselves in a situation where we had to turn to Sam but that was the mess we found ourselves in, we actually needed him to do a job for us, pathetic state of affairs

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I think he's bang on that Rooney and Sigurdson shouldn't play in the same team. Gylfi obviously covers a lot of ground, but he's not rapid. We all know Rooneys legs aren't what they were. Unfortunately the premier league is increasingly based around fast transitions, the ability to press or defend deep and break. Mobility is therefore inherently necessary. We either can't get back to defend in numbers swiftly enough or we can't break effectively speed with both in the team.

Sadly we're not exactly blessed with pace merchants in the middle.

Other than that it's all still hoof, gravy and bungs.

 

[granter79]

So put your money where your mouth is, if all those players dropped who takes their place, never mind rhetoric give details.

Rather watch a young player give 100% than watch Morgan go through the motions.
He will stick with the underperformers

 

[LiamG]

His new manager bounce will probably save us from relegation.

However that's over and so should his time here be.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

He's only got one RS on his back room staff ?

 

[granter79]

The players

They don't pick themselves game after game and continue to go through the motions. Happy with this good luck to you

 

[Blue Sky]

Without penetrating midfielders any manager would struggle here , Gylfi doesn't do that , Rooney knows how but no longer can , somebody like Mad Dog Tommy is what I mean , Peter Reid etc . We now have some quick players but they are wide men , all our midfielders are holding type or a bit too young.

 

[Toffeelover]

Rather watch a young player give 100% than watch Morgan go through the motions.
He will stick with the underperformers

Hey, me I am all for giving Bangemin more time.