Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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More interested to hear how the Tories are going to square public investment and tax cuts for the richest in society. All this with the economic downturn from Brexit that their own sources have predicted.


The answer is the same as McDonnells 400bn. Borrowing.

The depressing thing is that both sides will invoke Keynsian "invest in the downturn" when the recession hits and, like every government of the last 40 years, conveniently forget the "run a surplus in the upside of the cycle" part.
 
I did think they would be on for around 295 seats before he started saying he'd rather be dead in the ditch and managed to bring back a joke of a deal from the EU and then mess the house around. Now I'm thinking of revising that downwards a tad.

They'll be well in excess of that IMO. Around 320.

295 would see Labour in power with the SNP.
 
He comes across as serious and knows what he's talking about, always thought he's spoke well any time I've seen him getting grilled by Journo's on TV looking for a weakness.
Think if he wanted the Leadership role he would have taken it off JC a couple of years back. He seems happier pulling the strings - either because he truly is a Machiavellian leftist, or because he values his health (he survived a heart attack a few years ago) - probably both. The media are off the scale with a reasonable auld centre leftie like JC, they think he's Chairman Mao, so what would they do to a legit leftist like McDonnell?
 
This Remain Alliance sounds like legalised vote rigging, shouldn't be allowed this type of thing.

The Lib Dems really do get on my t*ts, they lobbied Cameron when they were in power with the Tory's to hold a referendum and said they would honour it, almost wiped out in 2016 they now redesign themselves into a remain party because they know nearly half the country voted remain, self serving, change their policies at the drop of a hat bunch of charlatans.
Does sound all nefarious... Brexit although an issue for myself compared with other issues it's well down on the list of concerns. If this remain coalition comes my way I would need to look at other that is the most damaging to the sitting Tory...
 
Well every nation has borrowings and with a sovereign currency you can always rely on inflation to pay the interest. You also have to option to devalue to get out if debt (although the IMF gangsters make this a little more thorny these days).

The key is what you do with it... If the borrowing is used to fund major infrastructure projects generating employment and lasting benefit to the nation, then I'm all for it. If it's used to buy votes by giving people free stuff or tax cuts then I'm a little more sceptical.

It'll be holes being dug by 100 people armed with a toothpick.
 
Think if he wanted the Leadership role he would have taken it off JC a couple of years back. He seems happier pulling the strings - either because he truly is a Machiavellian leftist, or because he values his health (he survived a heart attack a few years ago) - probably both. The media are off the scale with a reasonable auld centre leftie like JC, they think he's Chairman Mao, so what would they do to a legit leftist like McDonnell?

Quote all the times he threatened other politicians with violence?
 
They'll be well in excess of that IMO. Around 320.

295 would see Labour in power with the SNP.

They got 317 last time, they will lose at least 12 seats in Scotland, places like hastings where Rudd was lucky last time will get a bit tasty. Not sure about some of the others that were ejected/moved to TIG/LIB but you would have thought they will lose 1 or 2 there and the Greens not running in Liberal marginals might take a few more off. That would leave them a lot of seats to find elsewhere to get 320.

Could happen though all it takes is one Gillian Duffy and a microphone switched on when it shouldn't have been. :)
 
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